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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    He didn't shoot the kid because of the music. He shot him because the kid threatened to kill him, displayed a means to carry through with that threat, and got out of the vehicle to do so.
    Youre such a blatant liar. The kid never got out of his car, it was Dunn who got out of his and started shooting. Stop lying already and go back to stormfront.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I wasn't talking to you.

    It doesn't matter who you were talking to or not.
    All topic comments are open to reply.

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    I was talking to your BFF,
    No you weren't. You are just being dishonest. It suites you well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    trying to explain to him that the vehicle was, in fact, in motion and trying to drive away as Dunn continued to fire at the vehicle.

    He seemed to not believe me when I told him that the SUV was, in fact, pulling away from the scene.
    Doesn't matter one bit. A threat doesn't just cease to be because it got into a vehicle. Especially as it could not be seen what the threat was doing.
    That threat didn't diminish until after the vehicle was some distance away.


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You verified what I said. They were moving away. 400 feet or 400 miles, they were still pulling away, as Dunn continued firing.

    No, I put in perspective what you said.
    The individual was still a threat inside the vehicle and they had ample opportunity to get rid of any weapon during that time.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Youre such a blatant liar.
    Stop being dishonest.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The kid never got out of his car, it was Dunn who got out of his and started shooting.
    Yes he did and dove straight back in when Dunn started firing.
    Davis' friend was caught lying about that in the first trial. Saying the child door locks were set so he couldn't possibly have got out. But that just wasn't true as found out by the evidence.
    The entry angles of the rounds as the vehicle pulled away showed the door was open.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Stop lying already and go back to stormfront.
    The only one being dishonest is you Pos.
    And you really need to stop with the ridiculous stormfront baiting comments. They are as juvenile as they are pathetic.
    I am not now, nor have I ever been a member there and I seriously doubt they would want me there as I am Jewish.
    So stop spewing ridiculous ****.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Okay, what of warning shots to scare a threat away? Or how about wounding, so as to block the threat to be carried out?

    Why lethal?
    First of all you do not shoot to wound. Nor are warning shots acceptable.

    Walk yourself through it.
    If you perceive someone is going to shoot you, as they threatened to do, and display what you believed was the means to do it (a barrel of a gun).
    Are you really going to let them shoot you first? I would hope not.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Yes he did and dove straight back in when Dunn started firing.
    Davis' friend was caught lying about that in the first trial. Saying the child door locks were set so he couldn't possibly have got out. But that just wasn't true as found out by the evidence.
    The entry angles of the rounds as the vehicle pulled away showed the door was open.
    Show me a single news report that claims Davis got out of the car.

    Even Dunn admits that Davis never left his car. Stop lying already.

    The only one being dishonest is you Pos.
    And you really need to stop with the ridiculous stormfront baiting comments. They are as juvenile as they are pathetic.
    If it quacks like a duck...

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

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    If it quacks like a duck...
    It quacks like a duck - a duck that's a moron.

    This is stupid. It is. It's like fighting with somebody because grass is green.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong again as already shown.
    You've shown nothing of the sort. Neither you nor the defense team provided any convincing evidence that Dunn's actions were justifiable as self defense. The only thing you've shown is a willingness to accept any excuse, no matter how flimsy, for unloading a gun into a car full of teenagers and killing one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Anybody should be entitled to fire under those circumstances.
    "Should be" is not the same thing as "is". The reasonable person standard is used to determine if self defense is justified, not the Excon standard, and those two things clearly have nothing at all to do with one another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No. That is not arguing in circles.
    Yes, it is, but there's clearly no reasoning with you, so I'm out. I have no desire to keep banging my head against your wall.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    You've shown nothing of the sort.
    Wrong again. I even provided it again for you. Your narrative was flat out wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Neither you nor the defense team provided any convincing evidence that Dunn's actions were justifiable as self defense.
    First of all, I did. Secondly, this is an argument of the evidence, not of what the jury decided. Which you do not know why they decided as they did. For all anyone knows, the jury could have been stacked with gun haters.
    So don't go spouting reasons the jury decided anything until you know for sure their reasoning.


    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The only thing you've shown is a willingness to accept any excuse, no matter how flimsy, for unloading a gun into a car full of teenagers and killing one of them.
    You are talking nonsense and are wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    "Should be" is not the same thing as "is". The reasonable person standard is used to determine if self defense is justified, not the Excon standard, and those two things clearly have nothing at all to do with one another.
    And again, it was reasonable. Which is not your absurd made -up "Excon" standard.
    And should be is should be. And in this case, "is", as in was. No evidence disproves his account.
    The threat still existed inside the vehicle. Period.


    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, it is, but there's clearly no reasoning with you, so I'm out. I have no desire to keep banging my head against your wall.
    Said the one with whom there is no reasoning with.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Show me a single news report that claims Davis got out of the car.
    Frankly I don't need to. But I will just to prove your dishonesty. (see reply below)


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Even Dunn admits that Davis never left his car. Stop lying already.
    The only one telling lies is you.
    So stop with the dishonesty already.
    He clearly testified that Davis got out of the vehicle.

    "He popped his door open, and he says, 'You're dead, b****,' and then he opens his door and gets out and says, 'This s***'s going down now,'" Dunn told jurors.

    Michael Dunn takes stand, retrial jury to get case Wednesday

    Start @30:48


    One news report.
    One video of Dunn saying the same thing as in the news report.
    Your dishonesty has been fully exposed.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The only one being dishonest is you Pos.
    And you really need to stop with the ridiculous stormfront baiting comments. They are as juvenile as they are pathetic.
    If it quacks like a duck...
    So stop quacking. It is that simple.





    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    It quacks like a duck - a duck that's a moron.
    So you are saying you are a duck. Good to know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Thank you for posting advice not to get involved with an argument with you.

    What is really funny is you participating in the quackery of another who also doesn't know the evidence like you don't.
    Well they do say birds of a feather flock together. Thanks for proving an axiom that didn't need proving.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Frankly I don't need to. But I will just to prove your dishonesty. (see reply below)


    The only one telling lies is you.
    So stop with the dishonesty already.
    He clearly testified that Davis got out of the vehicle.

    "He popped his door open, and he says, 'You're dead, b****,' and then he opens his door and gets out and says, 'This s***'s going down now,'" Dunn told jurors.

    Michael Dunn takes stand, retrial jury to get case Wednesday

    Start @30:48

    Dunn is a liar. If he shot Davis when the latter was standing outside the boy would have been dead on the ground and there would have been blood on the ground but he died in the car so once again you have been exposed.

    Two friends of slain teenager Jordan Davis testified Michael Dunn said "Are you talking to me?" in dispute over music, then started shooting - CBS News

    And this too:

    The former medical examiner who performed the autopsy on Mr. Davis also testified Monday that it was “unlikely” Mr. Davis was standing when he was shot. This contradicted the claim that Mr. Davis was out of the Durango. The wounds, the examiner said, indicated that Mr. Davis, who bore no traces of alcohol or drugs, was sitting in the vehicle and leaning away.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/us...ager.html?_r=0
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