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Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial[W:292]

Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Other than "was black" and "played music," what makes you call the victim a "real thug?" I'm not as familiar with the case as you clearly are.

Exactly. Perhaps it was that nonexistent shotgun that escalated them into thugdom?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Wrong on so many levels...
Yes you are.
An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.


But do explain... what qualifies the kid he killed to be a "real thug"?
:doh
I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
Had you, you would have known his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
A person who is making threats against your life, intimates he has the ability to carry through with that threat, and is then gets out of the vehicle to carry through with that threat, is a thug.
Sorry you don't realize that.





Other than "was black" and "played music," what makes you call the victim a "real thug?"
:doh
I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
Had you, you would have know his actions his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
But for some reason I am pretty sure you already knew that and just wanted to make a false racist claim.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

the judge could actually reject the jury verdict and issue an acquittal. I see the anti gun fanatics are going to try to argue guns should be banned because of this guy

Any evidence that this is true?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Exactly. Perhaps it was that nonexistent shotgun that escalated them into thugdom?
Again, they had more than enough time to get rid of it when they drove away and got out.

And the fact that there was a tripod under the seat could very well be what he used to intimate the threat of a gun.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

:doh
I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
Had you, you would have know his actions his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
But for some reason I am pretty sure you already knew that and just wanted to make a false racist claim.

So, what you are telling me is that "being a thug" is worthy of being executed in the street without trial.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

So, what you are telling me is that "being a thug" is worthy of being executed in the street without trial.
:doh

Did I say that?
Or did I say the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

:doh

Did I say that?
Or did I say the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed?

You said the shooter was innocent, thereby claiming the shooting was justified.

Because the victim was a "thug."

Which totally doesn't mean "black and ornery."
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Again, they had more than enough time to get rid of it when they drove away and got out.

And the fact that there was a tripod under the seat could very well be what he used to intimate the threat of a gun.

He could have just as easily seen a pink elephant.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

He could have just as easily seen a pink elephant.

Probably more easily. Seeing a pink elephant only requires hallucination, and many conditions can cause hallucinations.

Seeing a tripod underneath the seat would require x-ray vision, which doesn't exist.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

He could have just as easily seen a pink elephant.
Stop with the absurdity.





You said the shooter was innocent, thereby claiming the shooting was justified.

Because the victim was a "thug."

Which totally doesn't mean "black and ornery."
:doh Figures!
You are again being dishonest in your attempt to twist what was said.

And can your racist bs.


This is what I said.

An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.

There are two different sentences there.
Neither say what you falsely and dishonestly attribute to me saying.
Which was.

So, what you are telling me is that "being a thug" is worthy of being executed in the street without trial.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Yes you are.
An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.

oooo.. the "I know you are but what am I" offense maneuver. How clever.

Excon said:
:doh
I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
Had you, you would have known his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
A person who is making threats against your life, intimates he has the ability to carry through with that threat, and is then gets out of the vehicle to carry through with that threat, is a thug.
Sorry you don't realize that.

I like how the only evidence you need is the one you want to believe. 700 witnesses could say it happened this way but you'll believe the one person who says it wasn't.


Excon said:
:doh
I see you hadn't bothered to read the thread.
Had you, you would have know his actions his actions, by the evidence, are what made made him a thug.
But for some reason I am pretty sure you already knew that and just wanted to make a false racist claim.

:lamo

Your "evidence" is going to prison. And he deserves it. All your crying won't change that. Funny how his word is God to you while all other "evidence" isn't even considered. Funny... but not surprising.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Stop with the absurdity.





:doh Figures!
You are again being dishonest in your attempt to twist what was said.

And can your racist bs.


This is what I said.

An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.

There are two different sentences there.
Neither say what you falsely and dishonestly attribute to me saying.
Which was.


You have no justification for the shooting other than the victim was "a thug."
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

You have no justification for the shooting other than the victim was "a thug."

No. He ACTUALLY believes that they were armed and got rid of it. He actually believes this. Because the defendant ALONE said they might have.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

oooo.. the "I know you are but what am I" offense maneuver. How clever.
When it actually applied to the initiator, as in this case, of course it is a valid reply.


I like how the only evidence you need is the one you want to believe. 700 witnesses could say it happened this way but you'll believe the one person who says it wasn't.
You ate talking nonsense, especially to the evidence of this case.
Which is why you resort to arguing logical fallacy.


Your "evidence" is going to prison.
No one in this thread said he wasn't.



And he deserves it.
Actually he doesn't. Not by the known evidence.



All your crying won't change that.
You obviously do not know what crying is to make such a claim.



Funny how his word is God to you while all other "evidence" isn't even considered. Funny... but not surprising.
:doh
You are absurdly wrong on both counts.
We already know why Davis's friends accounts are discounted. Because they are liars as shown by the tangible evidence.
Dunn's account on the other hand hasn't been shown to be false.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

When it actually applied to the initiator, as in this case, of course it is a valid reply.


You ate talking nonsense, especially to the evidence of this case.
Which is why you resort to arguing logical fallacy.


No one in this thread said he wasn't.



Actually he doesn't. Not by the known evidence.



You obviously do not know what crying is to make such a claim.



:doh
You are absurdly wrong on both counts.
We already know why Davis's friends accounts are discounted. Because they are liars as shown by the tangible evidence.
Dunn's account on the other hand hasn't been shown to be false.

tangible evidence being Dunn's word alone. Hilarious.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

You have no justification for the shooting other than the victim was "a thug."
I see you are not paying attention or are purposely being dishonest again.
Figures.

And again:
A person who is making threats against your life, intimates he has the ability to carry through with that threat, and is then gets out of the vehicle to carry through with that threat, is a thug.

Those very actions which make him a thug are what got him killed.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

tangible evidence being Dunn's word alone. Hilarious.
You don't even know the evidence and are trying to discuss it. :lamo
And you obviously do not understand that tangible evidence is not "testimony" of a person. Duh!
Which just shows that you haven't read the thread either. :doh


The trajectory of the rounds, you know, tangible evidence, says the rear door was open when the rounds entered, and yet they lied saying that Davis wouldn't even been able to open the door.

Driver said he called 911, but didn't. He called his aunt and who was in the area with his cousin. You know, phone records - tangible evidence. Duh!
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

You don't even know the evidence and are trying to discuss it. :lamo
And you obviously do not understand that tangible evidence is not "testimony" of a person. Duh!
Which just shows that you haven't read the thread either. :doh


The trajectory of the rounds, you know, tangible evidence, says the rear door was open when the rounds entered, and yet they lied saying that Davis wouldn't even been able to open the door.

Driver said he called 911, but didn't. He called his aunt and who was in the area with his cousin. You know, phone records - tangible evidence. Duh!

Your claims are completely absurd. Stop being absurd.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Stop with the absurdity.





:doh Figures!
You are again being dishonest in your attempt to twist what was said.

And can your racist bs.


This is what I said.

An innocent man will be doing time for a crime he did not commit. And the community is a lot safer with the real thug having killed.

There are two different sentences there.
Neither say what you falsely and dishonestly attribute to me saying.
Which was.

So, define thug?

What you have is a black teen playing loud music with no physical evidence of a gun.

The only "evidence" of a gun comes from the guy who shot the teen, fled the seen and did not wish to report the incident in a timely manner.

Funny that you trust the killer with that fled the scene.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

The jury got this one right. A killer bully is going to prison where he belongs.

Dunn is going to meet a whole lot of other "innocent people " in prison. He will fit right in.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

No. He ACTUALLY believes that they were armed and got rid of it. He actually believes this. Because the defendant ALONE said they might have.

You mean the defendant that fled the scene and failed to report the shooting in a timely manner? That guy?;)
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

You mean the defendant that fled the scene and failed to report the shooting in a timely manner? That guy?;)

I think that is the one. You know... the guy whose word is gold and outweighs all evidence.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Again, they had more than enough time to get rid of it when they drove away and got out.

And the fact that there was a tripod under the seat could very well be what he used to intimate the threat of a gun.

Perhaps if he had reported the incident right away, they would have known to look for the pink elephant gun.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Perhaps if he had reported the incident right away, they would have known to look for the pink elephant gun.

He couldn't. He was under such fear of being tracked down by the "real thugs" that he couldn't fathom using a phone and had to drown his fear in beer and pizza at a hotel room.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

So, define thug?
WTF? For the purposes of this topic I already did.
What about his actions of threatening to kill Dunn, along with an intimated ability to do so, coupled with his getting out to carry through with the threat, do you not understand?


What you have is a black teen playing loud music
Which has nothing to do with why Dunn shot at him.


with no physical evidence of a gun.
Lack of finding a gun (which they had ample opportunity to ditch when the drove away), doesn't mean there was no gun involved.
Especially as the cops didn't bother to look for several days after it was reported. Which is a very important point.Especially as the driver called his aunt who was in the area with his cousin.


In addition, as I keep pointing out, the tripod under the seat may have been what Davis used. Either to purposely intimate the threat of a gun, or to just emphasize the threat he made.
And if that is what he did, that makes Dunn's response just as reasonable had it been an actual gun.


The only "evidence" of a gun comes from the guy who shot the teen,
And?
The possibility that a gun existed still exists and as such, there is no evidence to doubt it.

Unless there is some underlying mental health issue, which there is none in this case, people just don't go around shooting others for the hell of it.
Responding to an actual threat is the norm. Not the exception.
Dunn was responding and there is no evidence to counter that.


fled the seen and did not wish to report the incident in a timely manner.

Funny that you trust the killer with that fled the scene.
Funny how you think saying he is a killer matters one bit. :lamo
Especially as no credible evidence shows he wasn't acting in self defense.

Funny that you do not understand that all folks do not act the same way.
Fleeing from dangerous people is normal.

As for not in a timely manner? BS. You do not determine what is or isn't a timely manner. Nor do you get to hold him responsible for something he is not required to do.
He stated his concerns as to why he left and what he was thinking in regards to contacting the authorities and they are all valid.

All you are doing is making **** up to not accept his account, and that just doesn't fly. Nor is it evidence that his account isn't true.

All this is, is you making up reason not to believe his account.
 
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