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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Personally, I support the conviction. Dunn made false allegations that one of the teens had pointed a shotgun at him. A shotgun is large and no reasonable person could make such an "error." IMO, this argument hinted at a calculated attempt to cover for what he had done following an incident that Dunn instigated. He also fled the scene and didn't report the incident. If someone killed in self-defense, he or she almost certainly would call the police so as to make clear what he or she had done and why. Therefore, his claim of self defense appeared not questionable but completely without merit.

    Did he trigger the incident with the intent to kill? From The New York Times:

    Prosecutors damaged his credibility by putting Rhonda Rouer, Mr. Dunn’s former fiancée, on the stand. In tearful testimony, Ms. Rouer, who was inside the store when the shooting took place, said Mr. Dunn complained about “thug” music. And in the night and day after the shooting, he never once mentioned that a teenager had pulled out a firearm.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/us...c-dispute.html

    IMO, the prosecutors demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt that Dunn had targeted people with the intent to kill. That he devised an excuse about seeing a shotgun, not a smaller handgun, at some point after he murdered the teen shows that it took him time to come up with a rationalization. There was no self-defense. Almost certainly, he came up with his rationalization only after he was arrested after fleeing the scene of his crime.

    In sum, I believe the jury made exactly the right decision. This was a case of premeditated murder. He chose his victims on the basis of the music they were playing, triggered a confrontation, then fired at his victims, fled the scene, then invented an excuse after his arrest. He deserves life without parole for his crime.

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    You might see less Blacks killing whites, but first angry stupid old white men need to stop killing unarmed black men for playing loud music, lol...

    Violence breeds violence, were not living in th 60s anymore and old angry white guys can't get away with **** anymore playing the i was scared of the dark skinned guy, nope won't fly anymore..

    Hopefully Dunn will face hell on earth in prison, the jig is up!!
    so killing an ATM repairman for no reason is worse than shooting some black kid who was playing music too loud? or do you think its ok for blacks to kill whites to steal property?


    the fact that blacks kill far more whites (are you following that case where a white UVA female student apparently has been killed by some black mope?) for ILLEGAL reasons than the converse. and that has been going on for over 50 years.



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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Yeah I can, because he is. Wrongfully charged and wrongfully convicted.
    Still innocent.
    That does happen in our justice system. Or didn't you know that?

    And the real thug died.


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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Did anyone expected Dunn will go out of this trial without a prison for shooting teenagers because they were playing laud music?

    The appeal to connect the murder with Treyvon though seemed a bit dramatic (see link in post 1).
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

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    murder is illegal
    So are we arguing black or white?

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    So are we arguing black or white?
    I wasn't the one arguing race until someone else tried to make this a blame whitey rant. I am merely noting that when it comes to interracial murders blacks kill far more whites than vice versa. and racism may have some role but may not depending on the crime.



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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Personally, I support the conviction. Dunn made false allegations that one of the teens had pointed a shotgun at him. A shotgun is large and no reasonable person could make such an "error." IMO, this argument hinted at a calculated attempt to cover for what he had done following an incident that Dunn instigated. He also fled the scene and didn't report the incident. If someone killed in self-defense, he or she almost certainly would call the police so as to make clear what he or she had done and why. Therefore, his claim of self defense appeared not questionable but completely without merit.

    Did he trigger the incident with the intent to kill? From The New York Times:

    Prosecutors damaged his credibility by putting Rhonda Rouer, Mr. Dunn’s former fiancée, on the stand. In tearful testimony, Ms. Rouer, who was inside the store when the shooting took place, said Mr. Dunn complained about “thug” music. And in the night and day after the shooting, he never once mentioned that a teenager had pulled out a firearm.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/us...c-dispute.html

    IMO, the prosecutors demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt that Dunn had targeted people with the intent to kill. That he devised an excuse about seeing a shotgun, not a smaller handgun, at some point after he murdered the teen shows that it took him time to come up with a rationalization. There was no self-defense. Almost certainly, he came up with his rationalization only after he was arrested after fleeing the scene of his crime.

    In sum, I believe the jury made exactly the right decision. This was a case of premeditated murder. He chose his victims on the basis of the music they were playing, triggered a confrontation, then fired at his victims, fled the scene, then invented an excuse after his arrest. He deserves life without parole for his crime.
    The bold is why I definitely think his plea of "self defense" was bull****. If you legitimately feel that you were threatened by someone and had a legitimate reason to shoot and kill them, you do not leave the scene of the incident and go about your business as if nothing happened. Even if just a fit of rage, how can you not feel any remorse at all after the adrenaline and other chemicals decline?
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so killing an ATM repairman for no reason is worse than shooting some black kid who was playing music too loud? or do you think its ok for blacks to kill whites to steal property?


    the fact that blacks kill far more whites (are you following that case where a white UVA female student apparently has been killed by some black mope?) for ILLEGAL reasons than the converse. and that has been going on for over 50 years.
    So what if he plays his music loud, i guess whites believe that they have the right to tell black men how loud their music should be?? F you..
    I don't see many black men confronting white guys about their loud ass jacked up trucks, that blast pollution everywhere...
    Like i said there will be less Blacks killing whites, when angry whites, stop killing, minorities, and who feel like the world owes them everything because they have pasty skin, and stop blaming all of their shortcomings on Blacks and Hispanics, racism breeds more racism, and violence breeds more violence..

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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Yeah I can, because he is. Wrongfully charged and wrongfully convicted.
    Still innocent.
    That does happen in our justice system. Or didn't you know that?

    And the real thug died.
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    Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTHUR 1976 View Post
    So what if he plays his music loud, i guess whites believe that they have the right to tell black men how loud their music should be?? F you..
    I don't see many black men confronting white guys about their loud ass jacked up trucks, that blast pollution everywhere...
    Like i said there will be less Blacks killing whites, when angry whites, stop killing, minorities, and who feel like the world owes them everything because they have pasty skin, and stop blaming all of their shortcomings on Blacks and Hispanics, racism breeds more racism, and violence breeds more violence..
    so it is your learned position that the reason why black males commit over HALF the murders in the USA and KILL far more whites than whites kill blacks is because angry whites murder blacks

    your idiotic comment OOZES racist nonsense



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