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Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

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[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]The director of the Secret Service submitted her resignation on Wednesday after a series of embarrassing security lapses, including the revelation that an armed man came within inches of President Barack Obama in an elevator.[/FONT][FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]On Tuesday, Director Julia Pierson was hauled before a House committee and upbraided by lawmakers, including one who suggested that she was better at protecting her own reputation than that of the White House.[/FONT]
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[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]On Sept. 19, a man jumped the White House fence, raced across the lawn, entered the building and made it as far as the East Room before he was tackled, and only then by an off-duty agent.[/FONT]
[FONT=proxima_nova_rgregular]The Secret Service, in its first account of the episode, said only that the man was apprehended after entering the North Portico doors.


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She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT]
 
The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because

1) Obama was never shot

2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds

The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!

So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.

The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.
 
The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because

Yes, they did.

1) Obama was never shot

The result doesn't justify lack of doing their job. If I don't follow procedures and an incident happens, just because noone got hurt doesn't justify me not following procedures.

2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds

The one time the SS SHOULD harrass/harm/shoot is when someone tries running into the White House. If he had an explosive vest, the result could have been different.

The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!

So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.


Oh yeah, it's OUR house, so I should be able to just book a weekend there and crash there right? :roll: Gimme a break.

That's just it, they didn't KNOW his intentions until AFTER they got him.

The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.

Sorry, but having an intruder enter the White House in that fashion is NOT doing their job.
 
The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because

1) Obama was never shot

2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds

The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!

So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.

The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.

The Secret Service had numerous failures of existing security protocols. Virtually everyone agrees with this obvious observation, except for an incredibly small minority (which you would necessarily hold).

The individual in question, which sparked the controversy, had violent intentions. This is obvious.

Your incredible inability to cope with reality, law and order, and decency is damning.
 
Someone mentioned that the first SS agent to come in contact with the intruder was a woman.

That she was basically drug through the White House by a much stronger and crazier Full Grown Man.
 
Have anything to back that up other than "shes a woman"?

Yea, Obviously she wasn't the most qualified.

She just resigned after a intruder ran through the WH
 
The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because

1) Obama was never shot

2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds

The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!

So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.

The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.

The dude got deep into the White House. Did he go through any TSA inspection to get in? Then anything the TSA searches for could have been carried by this person.
 
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She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT][/COLOR]

I hate to be "that guy," but should I bring up the fact that she was basically an "affirmative action" appointee now or later?

The only reason she got the job in the first place was because the Obama Administration wanted to be able to say that they appointed the "first female head of the secret service."
 
The Secret Service had numerous failures of existing security protocols. Virtually everyone agrees with this obvious observation, except for an incredibly small minority (which you would necessarily hold).

And they're wrong, because the SS, based on actual results (the Pres was never harmed), succeeded at its job.

The individual in question, which sparked the controversy, had violent intentions. This is obvious.

Why is it obvious? What evidence is there to support that assertion?

Your incredible inability to cope with reality, law and order, and decency is damning.

Your inability to judge based on real results instead of a Nazi-like beat-everyone-up-that-enters-the-WH world view is horrifying.
 
Even otherwise, it's O's call as to what level of security he deems appropriate.

It's no one's business but his--although it's supposed to be our house, he's in charge there (even if he's subordinate to lobbyists).
 
Pierson getting the axe (or resigning) was a given.... I'm just hoping the administration is going to be looking at the 2nd and 3rd in command as well. There is a culture issue in the SS and it needs to change from the top down.
 
And they're wrong, because the SS, based on actual results (the Pres was never harmed), succeeded at its job.

The individual in question was never supposed to get: 1) across the fence 2) deep into the lawn 3) on the steps 4) inside the White House through that entrance

Only an idiot would think otherwise.


Why is it obvious? What evidence is there to support that assertion?

Read the news.

According to the indictment, Gonzalez was apprehended inside the White House, where Secret Service agents found "a black folding knife" inside his front right pants pocket. Police found "hundreds of rounds of ammunition, both in boxes and in magazines, two hatchets, and a machete" inside his car.

You don't do all of those things at once unless you have violent intentions.

Your inability to judge based on real results instead of a Nazi-like beat-everyone-up-that-enters-the-WH world view is horrifying.

The only thing that is horrifying is your radical anti-government stances matched with naivete.
 
My goodness.........does the Secret Service have no weight/conditioning rules. This incompetent overweight hog was appointed to oversee an elite force of officers........geeez........I guess she will be replaced by another affirmative action hire. Then the Obama admin can say they appointed the first female and first black to head the Secret Service. I'm sure, by resigning, she gets to keep her $150,000 per year pension for life.
 
The individual in question was never supposed to get: 1) across the fence 2) deep into the lawn 3) on the steps 4) inside the White House through that entrance

Only an idiot would think otherwise.

Only an idiot would think it matters unless such an intrusion actually amounted to a threat.

There's zero evidence he intended to harm anyone.





Read the news.



You don't do all of those things at once unless you have violent intentions.

Please indicate why those actions necessarily indicate he had violent intentions.

Has it occurred to you he merely did it as a prank? Because he was just crazy?

The only thing that is horrifying is your radical anti-government stances matched with naivete.

Yes, anything consistent w/a free country is generally seen as radical by the right wing and their Nazi mentality.

P. S. perhaps you can make a video for us using your gun to show us all how the SS should've reacted to the intrusion.
 
Yes he did.

Which exposes the incompetence of Obama.

Perhaps not incompetence, but it certainly exposes that Obama makes serious policy decisions based on whichever way the wind is blowing at any given time.
 
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