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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.

    Where do YOU stand? AOK for people to fire live rounds at the WH? AOK for an armed stranger to sashay into an elevator with the president? AOK for an intruder to break into the WH and run amock? AOK to make distorted incident reports, or pretty well cover them up as in the case of the elevator episode?

    Just a straight answer this time, please, no wisecracks, and I hope you can show that you actually possess a sense of appreciation for how serious it us for the President to be in constant danger due to the incompetence of his security detail.
    You don't understand this poster. He actually has no problem with people who might kill the President getting close to him.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    One down .... the rest of the most corrupt administration in history to go.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You don't understand this poster. He actually has no problem with people who might kill the President getting close to him.
    Oh, and who would that be ? ?

    The intruder clearly had no intention of harming anyone, because if he did, he would've done so since he had ample opportunity to do it. Hello, logic

    But please entertain us as to when/where someone who "might kill the President" ever got close to him.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    If there was no evidence he had any intention of hurting anyone, what difference does it make if he had a knife or gun? Explain.
    The SS has a job which is to vet, in advance, those that wish to enter the spaces under their control. If folks can simply hop the fence, run accross the lawn, enter an unlocked entrance and "overpower" the posted guards then why even have the SS at all? If you wish to allow unannounced visitors into "your house" then you don't pay dearly for a security force. That is not the case here - the SS have a specific job to do that does not include waiting to see what a loon rushing into the WH may eventually decide to do.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The SS has a job which is to vet, in advance, those that wish to enter the spaces under their control. If folks can simply hop the fence, run accross the lawn, enter an unlocked entrance and "overpower" the posted guards then why even have the SS at all? If you wish to allow unannounced visitors into "your house" then you don't pay dearly for a security force. That is not the case here - the SS have a specific job to do that does not include waiting to see what a loon rushing into the WH may eventually decide to do.
    The SS's job, among other tasks, is to protect the President without endangering anyone else's rights.

    And the SS has succeeded because O is alive and well, as are the other Presidents before him for over 30 years.

    Results are the only thing that matters in job performance. If people in the WH were being shot and/or harrassed by outsiders every day, then there would be an issue.

    But since that hasn't happened, it doesn't matter. If someone succeeds at a job by fulfilling the desired objectives, no one should care how that job is done. I don't believe in micromanagement.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.

    Where do YOU stand? AOK for people to fire live rounds at the WH? AOK for an armed stranger to sashay into an elevator with the president? AOK for an intruder to break into the WH and run amock? AOK to make distorted incident reports, or pretty well cover them up as in the case of the elevator episode?

    Just a straight answer this time, please, no wisecracks, and I hope you can show that you actually possess a sense of appreciation for how serious it us for the President to be in constant danger due to the incompetence of his security detail.
    It is not the president's personal security detail or personal residence since he didn't build or fund it - they are perks that his office is provided by the taxpayers. The SS are public employees paid for with public funds (tax money) to perform a specific mission authorized by our congress critters. I am getting very tired of the idea that Obama alone gets to decide when, where and how our money is being wasted. Obama may be fine with the IRS choosing to harass those that he cares little about, with embassy personnel being sacrificed to keep up some bizarre image of trusting the "good Muslim" nations and doling out endless pork to his favorite supporters. We the people, not the king, must have a say in how our border is being secured and how the federal laws that our representatives have passed are being enforced.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.

    Where do YOU stand? AOK for people to fire live rounds at the WH? AOK for an armed stranger to sashay into an elevator with the president? AOK for an intruder to break into the WH and run amock? AOK to make distorted incident reports, or pretty well cover them up as in the case of the elevator episode?

    Just a straight answer this time, please, no wisecracks, and I hope you can show that you actually possess a sense of appreciation for how serious it us for the President to be in constant danger due to the incompetence of his security detail.
    I don't think the ol' girl should have been promoted, in the first place. It should have been obvious that she couldn't handle the job, BEFORE she was promoted.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The SS's job, among other tasks, is to protect the President without endangering anyone else's rights.

    And the SS has succeeded because O is alive and well, as are the other Presidents before him for over 30 years.

    Results are the only thing that matters in job performance. If people in the WH were being shot and/or harrassed by outsiders every day, then there would be an issue.

    But since that hasn't happened, it doesn't matter. If someone succeeds at a job by fulfilling the desired objectives, no one should care how that job is done. I don't believe in micromanagement.
    Seriously? You wish to dole out tax money to federal "security" employees and call it success if nothing bad happens every day? You don't need to be shot, stabbed or beaten every day to consider it to be a very bad idea not to limit entry to unknown visitors. A very important part of the SS mission is to limit access (that famous Obama word) to the places under their control - one does not use locks on their home and car to keep the honest people out.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You don't understand this poster. He actually has no problem with people who might kill the President getting close to him.
    Another one? Really?

    Libbos are such a ****ing joke!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The SS's job, among other tasks, is to protect the President without endangering anyone else's rights.

    And the SS has succeeded because O is alive and well, as are the other Presidents before him for over 30 years.

    Results are the only thing that matters in job performance. If people in the WH were being shot and/or harrassed by outsiders every day, then there would be an issue.

    But since that hasn't happened, it doesn't matter. If someone succeeds at a job by fulfilling the desired objectives, no one should care how that job is done. I don't believe in micromanagement.
    No one has the right to storm the White House. Anyone that does so should expect to be gunned down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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