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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    He had no choice after invading Iraq. To leave prematurely would be an admission of incompetence, which would also have been politically unpopular.

    So bush was backed into a corner--damned if he did and damned if he didn't.
    But isn't this somewhat the same thing where the SS is concerned?

    To be clear, Pres. Obama said he had confidence in the SS, not that he had confidence in who was running it. So, what I gathered from that is the President is trying to reassure the country that he still firmly believes that the agency whose job it is to protect himself and his family is still very capable of doing that job. To say otherwise would not only enlarge the shadow of doubt that already looms large of the department but may also invite others to try to breech SS security because they just heard the POTUS say he no longer felt the agency capable of doing its job. That's certainly not an impression you want to give.

    So, but him saying he still had confidence in the SS but accepting the Director's resignation is sorta the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of scenario. If he had said anything to suggest he didn't feel safe with this agency guarding him, can you imagine the fallout? We're talking a complete overhaul of the SS, not just replacing a Department Head or changing some security procedures/protocols.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    I'm glad that she held herself accountable for the problems.
    Too bad more of the screw-ups don't do the same !!!
    She had no choice. The Libbos would have lynched her for endangering The Messiah's safety.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again I explained it, if they didn't follow proper policy, which isn't letting an intruder in the White House, they FAILED. Plain and simple.
    NOPE.

    FAILURE is defined as not achieving the desired results, which, in this case, is keeping O alive and well without violating anyone else's civil rights/freedoms.

    The SS succeeded at that, and therefore, it did not fail.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She had no choice. The Libbos would have lynched her for endangering The Messiah's safety.
    This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.

    Where do YOU stand? AOK for people to fire live rounds at the WH? AOK for an armed stranger to sashay into an elevator with the president? AOK for an intruder to break into the WH and run amock? AOK to make distorted incident reports, or pretty well cover them up as in the case of the elevator episode?

    Just a straight answer this time, please, no wisecracks, and I hope you can show that you actually possess a sense of appreciation for how serious it us for the President to be in constant danger due to the incompetence of his security detail.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    NOPE.

    FAILURE is defined as not achieving the desired results, which, in this case, is keeping O alive and well without violating anyone else's civil rights/freedoms.

    The SS succeeded at that, and therefore, it did not fail.
    It looks like this troll can't be shut up so may we please ignore the bastard? Please?

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But isn't this somewhat the same thing where the SS is concerned?

    To be clear, Pres. Obama said he had confidence in the SS, not that he had confidence in who was running it.
    O's press secretary said that "new leadership is needed", which clearly means that O did not have confidence in his agency.

    So he already screwed up by giving the public the wrong idea.

    I'm not defending O. He's just a stupid, cowardly pol like those before him. I'm only defending the SS's recent actions--since O is still alive and well, they did their job.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

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    She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT][/COLOR]
    She really had no choice.
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That's grossly inadequate for a serious security job. Decent security personnel should expect to take nothing less than $2 million/yr.

    But the US is supposed to be a free country, where the people are ideally in charge, and hence, we don't want super gung-ho security guards at the WH.
    Yeah, it's not as though Presidents have ever been murdered. People should just chill out and let whoever the hell wants to go into the white house go into the white house! It's America's house, by God!
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    She really had no choice.
    She did have a choice: she could've told the truth about what happened at the WH right away. Regardless of whether she felt the SS's actions were justifiable, telling the truth was the first appropriate step in the aftermath.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yeah, it's not as though Presidents have ever been murdered. People should just chill out and let whoever the hell wants to go into the white house go into the white house! It's America's house, by God!
    Looks like the SS is doing just and it's worked for them for over 30 years. Apparently, you don't trust results

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