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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Have anything to back that up other than "shes a woman"?
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    Yes.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Have anything to back that up other than "shes a woman"?
    Yea, Obviously she wasn't the most qualified.

    She just resigned after a intruder ran through the WH

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because

    1) Obama was never shot

    2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds

    The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!

    So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.

    The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.
    The dude got deep into the White House. Did he go through any TSA inspection to get in? Then anything the TSA searches for could have been carried by this person.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT][/COLOR]
    Maybe so, but didn't President Obama, yesterday, give Ms. Pierson a glowing vote of confidence?
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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

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    She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT][/COLOR]
    I hate to be "that guy," but should I bring up the fact that she was basically an "affirmative action" appointee now or later?

    The only reason she got the job in the first place was because the Obama Administration wanted to be able to say that they appointed the "first female head of the secret service."

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The Secret Service had numerous failures of existing security protocols. Virtually everyone agrees with this obvious observation, except for an incredibly small minority (which you would necessarily hold).
    And they're wrong, because the SS, based on actual results (the Pres was never harmed), succeeded at its job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The individual in question, which sparked the controversy, had violent intentions. This is obvious.
    Why is it obvious? What evidence is there to support that assertion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Your incredible inability to cope with reality, law and order, and decency is damning.
    Your inability to judge based on real results instead of a Nazi-like beat-everyone-up-that-enters-the-WH world view is horrifying.

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    The dude got deep into the White House. Did he go through any TSA inspection to get in? Then anything the TSA searches for could have been carried by this person.
    So TSA-like "security" measures are what's needed at the WH. . .?

    Researchers Easily Slipped Weapons Past TSA's X-Ray Body Scanners | WIRED


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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Even otherwise, it's O's call as to what level of security he deems appropriate.

    It's no one's business but his--although it's supposed to be our house, he's in charge there (even if he's subordinate to lobbyists).

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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Pierson getting the axe (or resigning) was a given.... I'm just hoping the administration is going to be looking at the 2nd and 3rd in command as well. There is a culture issue in the SS and it needs to change from the top down.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    And they're wrong, because the SS, based on actual results (the Pres was never harmed), succeeded at its job.
    The individual in question was never supposed to get: 1) across the fence 2) deep into the lawn 3) on the steps 4) inside the White House through that entrance

    Only an idiot would think otherwise.


    Why is it obvious? What evidence is there to support that assertion?
    Read the news.

    According to the indictment, Gonzalez was apprehended inside the White House, where Secret Service agents found "a black folding knife" inside his front right pants pocket. Police found "hundreds of rounds of ammunition, both in boxes and in magazines, two hatchets, and a machete" inside his car.
    You don't do all of those things at once unless you have violent intentions.

    Your inability to judge based on real results instead of a Nazi-like beat-everyone-up-that-enters-the-WH world view is horrifying.
    The only thing that is horrifying is your radical anti-government stances matched with naivete.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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