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Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election, says administration insider | Daily Mail Online

A national security staffer in the Obama administration said the president has been seeing 'highly accurate predictions' about the rise of the ISIS terror army since 'before the 2012 election'
Obama insisted in his campaign speeches that year that America was safe and al-Qaeda was 'on the run'
The president said during Sunday's '60 Minutes' program that his Director of National Intelligence had conceded he underestimated ISIS
But the administration aide insisted that Obama's advisers gave him actionable information that sat and gathered dust for more than a year
'He knew what was at stake,' the aide said of the president, and 'he knew where all the moving pieces were'
Obama takes daily intelligence briefings in writing, he explained, because no one will be able to testify about warning the president in person about threats that the White House doesn't act on


Hmmm, this is interesting. This guy isn't even going through the motions.

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Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election, says administration insider | Daily Mail Online

A national security staffer in the Obama administration said the president has been seeing 'highly accurate predictions' about the rise of the ISIS terror army since 'before the 2012 election'
Obama insisted in his campaign speeches that year that America was safe and al-Qaeda was 'on the run'
The president said during Sunday's '60 Minutes' program that his Director of National Intelligence had conceded he underestimated ISIS
But the administration aide insisted that Obama's advisers gave him actionable information that sat and gathered dust for more than a year
'He knew what was at stake,' the aide said of the president, and 'he knew where all the moving pieces were'
Obama takes daily intelligence briefings in writing, he explained, because no one will be able to testify about warning the president in person about threats that the White House doesn't act on


Hmmm, this is interesting. This guy isn't even going through the motions.

Read more: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election, says administration insider | Daily Mail Online
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Interesting. But there is a fine line between "had intelligence reports" and "have evidence to take to Congress." In 2012, it would have been hard sell especially with the election coming up.
 
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What bothers me the most about this is yet again we have an indication that our government is lying to us in an effort to continue a very confusing and hypocritical foreign policy.
 
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Chirp, chirp, chirp, no obamites here to defend their worshiped beloved loser human?
 
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Its Bush's fault. No wait, its Clapper's fault...

President Barack Obama was facing a fierce political backlash on Monday night after he blamed US intelligence chiefs for being caught by surprise by the sudden rise of the Islamic State (Isil) terror movement in Iraq and Syria.

In a highly unusual step, Mr Obama singled out James Clapper, his director of national intelligence, when asked by a television interviewer whether he had underestimated the threat posed by Isil after its fighters burst across the Syrian border into Iraq this summer, capturing large swathes of territory.

“I think our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria,” Mr Obama told CBS News.

Fury as Obama blames intelligence agencies for Isil surprise - Telegraph
 
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And George Bush had ample warnings about Al Qaeda before 9/11 that all went ignored.

How George W. Bush was given SEVEN warnings about threat from Bin Laden in months before 9/11

Read more: 9/11 anniversary: Series of 2001 briefings warned of attack by Bin Laden | Daily Mail Online
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The Deafness Before the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html
 
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And George Bush had ample warnings about Al Qaeda before 9/11 that all went ignored.

How George W. Bush was given SEVEN warnings about threat from Bin Laden in months before 9/11

Read more: 9/11 anniversary: Series of 2001 briefings warned of attack by Bin Laden | Daily Mail Online
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The Deafness Before the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html


... which, of course, is immaterial. Unless, of course, we want to point out how incredibly stupid it would be to make the same mistake your predecessor made.
 
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Interesting. But there is a fine line between "had intelligence reports" and "have evidence to take to Congress." In 2012, it would have been hard sell especially with the election coming up.

Well sure, but the claim is that he put politics ahead of dealing with ISIS so it is no defense in claiming that he couldn't do anything with an election coming up. That is just agreeing.

The other part of this is that if this is true, that he had accurate intelligence for years, then the president just lied on 60 minutes.
 
Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

And George Bush had ample warnings about Al Qaeda before 9/11 that all went ignored.

How George W. Bush was given SEVEN warnings about threat from Bin Laden in months before 9/11

Read more: 9/11 anniversary: Series of 2001 briefings warned of attack by Bin Laden | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


The Deafness Before the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html
Two things: 1) the knee-jerk attempts by the left to deflect any incompetence from this administration by pointing out the (supposed) incompetence of its predecessor is beyond moronic, is no real defense at all of Obama, and was a tired strategy 5 years ago. 2) Given your 20/20 hindsight of the matter, what should Bush have done with those warnings? Declare martial law?

And finally, what we have here with Obama is his getting the assessments of ISIS and now lying about it. Try to deal with the topic of the thread rather than derail it and slam Bush. Bush is out of office. He has been for six years. Obama is president and the thread is about Obama. If you cant follow along, start your own Bush-bashing thread and stay out of this one. Thanks
 
Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

And George Bush had ample warnings about Al Qaeda before 9/11 that all went ignored.

How George W. Bush was given SEVEN warnings about threat from Bin Laden in months before 9/11

Read more: 9/11 anniversary: Series of 2001 briefings warned of attack by Bin Laden | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


The Deafness Before the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html

And yet no indication they were going to use planes as missiles, the things going on with Isis have happened right out in the open for all to see.
 
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So when a "potential threat" is "possibly" growing in a foreign country, what's a POTUS supposed to do?

Declare war and invade?

Who would have supported an invasion of Syria in 2011-2012?

Who supports an invasion of Syria now?

Why is it always up to the USofA to do something about terror groups forming and growing in Middle Eastern countries?

If an ISIS type group had started and festered in Kentucky, then the POTUS can rightfully be blamed.

Exactly how many countries should the USofA invade militarily?
How many countries should we be actively at war with right now based on current, potential, and possible future threats from terrorism?


It's amazing to me how many people think the POTUS can do magical things in foreign countries with military force. :roll:
 
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Well sure, but the claim is that he put politics ahead of dealing with ISIS so it is no defense in claiming that he couldn't do anything with an election coming up. That is just agreeing.

The other part of this is that if this is true, that he had accurate intelligence for years, then the president just lied on 60 minutes.

In his defense, he lies about everything so how would anyone know?
 
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So when a "potential threat" is "possibly" growing in a foreign country, what's a POTUS supposed to do?

Declare war and invade?

Who would have supported an invasion of Syria in 2011-2012?

Who supports an invasion of Syria now?

Why is it always up to the USofA to do something about terror groups forming and growing in Middle Eastern countries?

If an ISIS type group had started and festered in Kentucky, then the POTUS can rightfully be blamed.

Exactly how many countries should the USofA invade militarily?
How many countries should we be actively at war with right now based on current, potential, and possible future threats from terrorism?


It's amazing to me how many people think the POTUS can do magical things in foreign countries with military force. :roll:

Silly bunny, he allowed Isis to take back all the cities Americans fought, and died for to free the Iraqi people, but he doesn't care.hey were the JV no threat
 
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Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election, says administration insider | Daily Mail Online

A national security staffer in the Obama administration said the president has been seeing 'highly accurate predictions' about the rise of the ISIS terror army since 'before the 2012 election'
Obama insisted in his campaign speeches that year that America was safe and al-Qaeda was 'on the run'
The president said during Sunday's '60 Minutes' program that his Director of National Intelligence had conceded he underestimated ISIS
But the administration aide insisted that Obama's advisers gave him actionable information that sat and gathered dust for more than a year
'He knew what was at stake,' the aide said of the president, and 'he knew where all the moving pieces were'
Obama takes daily intelligence briefings in writing, he explained, because no one will be able to testify about warning the president in person about threats that the White House doesn't act on


Hmmm, this is interesting. This guy isn't even going through the motions.

Read more: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election, says administration insider | Daily Mail Online
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I would say in 2012 which was 2 years ago there probably was quite a lot of reports on ISIS as a growing organization full of bad guys. But ISIS would have been no where near what it is today. Perhaps and I am only guessing, just another splinter group of anti-Assad rebels with ties or being affiliated with AQ. Remember Ollie North warned congress and the whole world of UBL during the Iran-Contra hearings and was basically laughed at.

Being our number one priority was trying to depose of Assad, we at that time may even have looked upon ISIS as a helpful organization. I am sure we knew back then quite a lot of the anti Assad rebels were part of or affiliated with terrorist organizations. We have been known to utilize many bad guys to accomplish our geopolitical goals and agendas. ISIS and others of basically of the same ilk in Syria probably fell into that category.

Times change, so too do organizations capabilities like ISIS. Who really knows outside those of our intel organizations exactly what ISIS was deemed capable of back in 2012? Also remember we as a nation have become reliant more and more on technology for our intel and less and less on humint and it was very hard to get accurate info from anyone on the ground inside Syria and with the rebels back then.

Now later, late 2013, early 2014, we should have known quite a lot more about them and their capabilities.
 
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So when a "potential threat" is "possibly" growing in a foreign country, what's a POTUS supposed to do?

His job. There are indications that he wouldn't even take in person PDB's from Clapper, or his military people, so he fails at that.

Declare war and invade?

Logical fallacy. No one is saying that he should have declared war prior to sending our forces into harms way. But now that he has sent our military, he needs to do the right thing and put it before congress for a vote, and not pull his usual banana dictator crap and go it alone.

Who would have supported an invasion of Syria in 2011-2012?

Not many, if any...However, are you telling me that you don't think that there is anything between doing nothing, and all out war? If so, then you really shouldn't post, because it doesn't look like you know what you are talking about.

Who supports an invasion of Syria now?

Not many, but more than did last year. Again, why is it all or nothing?

Why is it always up to the USofA to do something about terror groups forming and growing in Middle Eastern countries?

Now there's the question...I can agree that part of the problem over there is that since we in the US have positioned ourselves as the worlds SWAT force, when anything crops up immediately all eyes in the room look at us and wait. However, I for one don't think we have ever done what we should before jumping to action. Post WWII that is.

My thought is that long before now we should have diplomatically laid the smack down on all of these players, Iran, SA, Qutar, Yemen, etc., and basically told them that if they didn't get their act together on this, we'd hold them responsible as state sponsors. Writing a check, and holding our coats is just not good enough...

If an ISIS type group had started and festered in Kentucky, then the POTUS can rightfully be blamed.

No he can be blamed now, because he assures us he knows the situation, and assured the American people that he not only had it under control, but had all but done away with the threat. Who knew that was just the big blow off so he could make his tee time on time. Oh, that's right, we did.

Exactly how many countries should the USofA invade militarily?

Again lots of steps in between to consider...

How many countries should we be actively at war with right now based on current, potential, and possible future threats from terrorism?

At the rate which Obama is downgrading our military to pre WWII levels, not many...I'd be surprised if this bumbler could even protect our own borders...ooooops....

It's amazing to me how many people think the POTUS can do magical things in foreign countries with military force.

It's not magic...But thanks for actually verbalizing that liberals just don't understand foreign policy, and how to use military force.
 
Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

So when a "potential threat" is "possibly" growing in a foreign country, what's a POTUS supposed to do?

Declare war and invade?

Who would have supported an invasion of Syria in 2011-2012?

Who supports an invasion of Syria now?

Why is it always up to the USofA to do something about terror groups forming and growing in Middle Eastern countries?

If an ISIS type group had started and festered in Kentucky, then the POTUS can rightfully be blamed.

Exactly how many countries should the USofA invade militarily?
How many countries should we be actively at war with right now based on current, potential, and possible future threats from terrorism?


It's amazing to me how many people think the POTUS can do magical things in foreign countries with military force. :roll:

What's more amazing are the things people say to cover for Obama's incompetance.
 
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I would say in 2012 which was 2 years ago there probably was quite a lot of reports on ISIS as a growing organization full of bad guys. But ISIS would have been no where near what it is today. Perhaps and I am only guessing, just another splinter group of anti-Assad rebels with ties or being affiliated with AQ. Remember Ollie North warned congress and the whole world of UBL during the Iran-Contra hearings and was basically laughed at.

Being our number one priority was trying to depose of Assad, we at that time may even have looked upon ISIS as a helpful organization. I am sure we knew back then quite a lot of the anti Assad rebels were part of or affiliated with terrorist organizations. We have been known to utilize many bad guys to accomplish our geopolitical goals and agendas. ISIS and others of basically of the same ilk in Syria probably fell into that category.

Times change, so too do organizations capabilities like ISIS. Who really knows outside those of our intel organizations exactly what ISIS was deemed capable of back in 2012? Also remember we as a nation have become reliant more and more on technology for our intel and less and less on humint and it was very hard to get accurate info from anyone on the ground inside Syria and with the rebels back then.

Now later, late 2013, early 2014, we should have known quite a lot more about them and their capabilities.



Not really Pero.....ISIL was AQ in the Levant. Not some splinter group of Anti Assad rebels. Al Nusra was the Splinter group. ISIL became ISIS.

Also we knew ISIS was in Lebanon in March of last year.
 
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Interesting. But there is a fine line between "had intelligence reports" and "have evidence to take to Congress." In 2012, it would have been hard sell especially with the election coming up.

Heya 88. :2wave: Depends on ones version of what is accurate.....huh?



Obama Missed More Than Half Of Intelligence Briefings, Government Accountability Report Says.....


President Barack Obama has missed more than half of his intelligence briefings during his time in office, according to a new Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report. The intelligence daily briefings report indicates that President Obama only attended 42.1 percent of the meetings. The Government Accountability Institute’s report on the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) also states that President Obama attended 42.4 percent of the intelligence briefings during his first term in the Oval Office and 41.3 percent of the PDBs during his current term.

An unnamed Obama administration national security staffer told the Daily Mail that President Obama typically takes the intelligence briefings material in a print form instead of actually attending the meetings. “Unless someone very senior has been shredding the president’s daily briefings and telling him that the dog ate them, highly accurate predictions about ISIL have been showing up in the Oval Office since before the 2012 election,” the security staffer said during the interview. “The intelligence community was sending pretty specific intel to us. We were seeing specific threat assessments and many of them have panned out exactly as we were told they would.”

Read more at Obama Missed More Than Half Of Intelligence Briefings, Government Accountability Report Says

Although it does help to show up most of the time.....Just sayin.
 
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All I see is a bunch of Monday-morning quarterbacking and use of hindsight plus a crap-ton load of blame-game finger pointing.

I did not vote for Obama. Not in either election.

I'm not covering for anything.

The POTUS - regardless of who he/she is, past, present, or future, can't be held responsible for the prevention of terrorist groups forming in foreign countries.

Foreign policy???? Like what? Stop sending them money? Stop providing them with weapons and aid? Trade embargo?

What's a sitting US President supposed to do to stop the next ISIS-type group from forming in some country the US is basically extremely unfriendly with?
Threaten that country with war? Not buy oil from them?

What?

This is a lot like saying the police should be able to prevent the next serial killer from becoming a serial killer. Easy to look back after the fact and ask why something wasn't done.
Impossible to look forward and stop the next one from happening.


You want foreign policy? How about the USofA get the ever living hell out of the Middle East? Stop putting money into their hands. Stop buying their products. Stop dealing with them in any and every way. Get out of their government. Get out of there completely. Stop interfering and trying to micro-manage every aspect of their existence based on what "we" think "they" should be doing. Let them do whatever the hell they want and live the life they want to live without any "foreign" input what-so-ever.

Let them fight out their existence between themselves, and we just sit back and watch.

That might end all threats towards the USofA completely don't ya think?
 
Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

And George Bush had ample warnings about Al Qaeda before 9/11 that all went ignored.

How George W. Bush was given SEVEN warnings about threat from Bin Laden in months before 9/11

Read more: 9/11 anniversary: Series of 2001 briefings warned of attack by Bin Laden | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


The Deafness Before the Storm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html

And Bush retired - 6 years ago. We got a new CEO. One who either is incompetant, or hires incompetant people, who do not keep him informed, which is incompetant.
 
Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

All I see is a bunch of Monday-morning quarterbacking and use of hindsight plus a crap-ton load of blame-game finger pointing.

I did not vote for Obama. Not in either election.

I'm not covering for anything.

The POTUS - regardless of who he/she is, past, present, or future, can't be held responsible for the prevention of terrorist groups forming in foreign countries.

Foreign policy???? Like what? Stop sending them money? Stop providing them with weapons and aid? Trade embargo?

What's a sitting US President supposed to do to stop the next ISIS-type group from forming in some country the US is basically extremely unfriendly with?
Threaten that country with war? Not buy oil from them?

What?

This is a lot like saying the police should be able to prevent the next serial killer from becoming a serial killer. Easy to look back after the fact and ask why something wasn't done.
Impossible to look forward and stop the next one from happening.


You want foreign policy? How about the USofA get the ever living hell out of the Middle East? Stop putting money into their hands. Stop buying their products. Stop dealing with them in any and every way. Get out of their government. Get out of there completely. Stop interfering and trying to micro-manage every aspect of their existence based on what "we" think "they" should be doing. Let them do whatever the hell they want and live the life they want to live without any "foreign" input what-so-ever.

Let them fight out their existence between themselves, and we just sit back and watch.

That might end all threats towards the USofA completely don't ya think?

No. I can sympathize with much of what you say here, I feel the frustration of alot of it myself. But, that said, we are where we are. We have interests in the ME weather it's a good idea or not, and until we come to the reality that we need to drill our own oil, and admit that the global collective anything is a ruse for global wealth redistribution, these types will always feel as though they are not getting enough, thus prompting them to act out...

This bent today is different, they are not attacking us, and our interests because we are involved in the ME, but rather that is only the pretext, the excuse. Their goals are clear, and they continue to say them outright, and that is the global caliphate, the domination of Shria everywhere. The only problem we have in understanding is that we have leaders that want to make it more complicated than it really is.
 
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No. I can sympathize with much of what you say here, I feel the frustration of alot of it myself. But, that said, we are where we are. We have interests in the ME weather it's a good idea or not, and until we come to the reality that we need to drill our own oil, and admit that the global collective anything is a ruse for global wealth redistribution, these types will always feel as though they are not getting enough, thus prompting them to act out...

This bent today is different, they are not attacking us, and our interests because we are involved in the ME, but rather that is only the pretext, the excuse. Their goals are clear, and they continue to say them outright, and that is the global caliphate, the domination of Shria everywhere. The only problem we have in understanding is that we have leaders that want to make it more complicated than it really is.

If that is true, then they have already lost. They simply lack the ability or the support. And if we quit helping them garner support, they'd be even less now.
 
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Well sure, but the claim is that he put politics ahead of dealing with ISIS so it is no defense in claiming that he couldn't do anything with an election coming up. That is just agreeing.

The other part of this is that if this is true, that he had accurate intelligence for years, then the president just lied on 60 minutes.

Heya JM :2wave: That's what he did.....as Maliki came to him in Nov of last year. Requesting aid and help to go after ISIL. Who he had informed BO was using Syria and that it was all spilling over into Iraq.


ISIL and Obama’s Ignorance
No Policy is Obama's Foreign Policy
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While president Obama was off railing about an inactive Congress and fundraising in liberal cities, there was an insidious rise in Islamic terrorism brewing in the Middle East. Today, the president blames faulty intelligence for being caught with his pants down regarding the bloody and sadistic advance of ISIL- the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Yet in March of this year, it was reported that ISIL fighters were in Lebanon fighting Hezbollah militants. Apparently not content with just Hezbollah, they found a target of opportunity that they hate perhaps more than Shi’ite Muslims- members of the Israeli Defense Forces patrolling along the Lebanese-Israel border. Prior to that, there were reports that they were recruiting people from Kazakhstan to fight in Syria. ISIL goes back before June, 2014.

The “being caught off guard” line is silly. There was ample evidence that ISIL had designs beyond the Syrian borders. They were, after all, already operating in Lebanon. Admittedly, the weak government of Maliki in Iraq did not help matters and ISIL saw an opportunity and took full advantage of it. Today, the border between Syria and Iraq is all but obliterated and controlled by these people as they push deeper into Iraq. This is par for the course for this president who learns of world and domestic events on the nightly news. Is CNN and NBC now his de facto CIA? When he and his spokespeople make these claims, it is not a deflection of blame onto the intelligence community, but an admittance of their own ineptitude, ignorance, or both. There was ample warning from a variety of sources that ISIL would move to seize cities in Iraq in early 2014. Again, the Obama administration preferred to stick their head in the sand. To them, Iraq was over and the sooner the better forgotten. Many blame the inability to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement with the Maliki government that could have left a standing military presence in Iraq. This is kind of disingenuous. On the one hand, they are claiming that the Maliki government is weak while on the other hand they state they could not negotiate an agreement…with a weak government. If you cannot negotiate an agreement with a weak government, that says loads about your “foreign policy” and international prestige.....snip~

ISIL and Obama's Ignorance | RedState
 
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Silly bunny, he allowed Isis to take back all the cities Americans fought, and died for to free the Iraqi people, but he doesn't care.hey were the JV no threat

There are "growing threats" all around the world. I can't get into what was stated but did it say that the Iraqi army was unable to meet the threat? Did it say mass desertion would lead to the taking of Iraq? I wonder if Russia is a "growing threat" according to the intelligence community?
 
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On the one hand, they are claiming that the Maliki government is weak while on the other hand they state they could not negotiate an agreement…with a weak government. If you cannot negotiate an agreement with a weak government, that says loads about your “foreign policy” and international prestige.....snip~

A weak government has to bend to public opinion. Public opinion in Iraq was for American troops to leave. Maliki himself may of even wanted American troops to stay but if he feels as if he's barely holding onto power the last thing he's going to do is go against his population on such a supercharged issue.
 
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