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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Islamic State had no quarters until we conducted regime change. Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad gave no room for these bastards. It's not a partisan issue. Years of US interference in the ME has been beneficial to militant Islamic groups.
    Islamic State had no quarters until we conducted regime Change Monte.....what regime change gave ISIS their Quarters and safehaven?

    Years of European and Russian interference has been beneficial to Militant Islamic groups.....also that interference has never stopped during any US interference. Correct?

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    More lies to cover up the FAILINGS of your hero!

    Two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, an analysis prepared for U.S. intelligence warned that Osama bin Laden's terrorists could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings like the Pentagon.

    Report Warned Of Suicide Hijackings - CBS News
    Oh so you are saying Clinton knew and did nothing got it, to many blow jobs to worry about the country! By the way my hero's are Jesus Christ and the American Soldier!

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The Sunni militants who now threaten to take over Iraq seemed to spring from nowhere when they stormed Mosul in early June. But the group that recently renamed itself simply “the Islamic State” has existed under various names and in various shapes since the early 1990s. And its story is the story of how modern terrorism has evolved, from a political and religious ideal into a death cult.

    ISIS: A Short History - The Atlantic

    ISIS originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999. This group was the forerunner of Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn—commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)—a group formed by Abu Musab Al Zarqawi in 2004 which took part in the Iraqi insurgency against American-led forces and their Iraqi allies following the 2003 invasion of Iraq. During the 2003–2011 Iraq War, it joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council, which consolidated further into the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) shortly afterwards.

    Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    OBAMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATION OF THE ISLAMIC STATE. His policies have however been beneficial to it.


    SO WHAT.....NO one has Said BO Peep Created the AQ group. But there is no mistaken he allowed them to become what they have......by doing nothing at the time of their Morph and expansion.

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It's not a "defense" against anything. It is just the way it is. You apparently believe Joe Biden to be an expert in Foreign policy. I said he is doing his job. Even I will admit he is not that bright. He's a grass roots kind of guy not a expert in anything but politics.
    The problem with Maliki is that we put all our "eggs" in him. He was the symbol of the new "democratic Iraq" we created so forcibly deposing him was not too appealing. Bush was in a rush to get a Govt. going and the CIA seemed to think he was the only choice at the time. Our bad but not Obama's fault at all.
    Your problem is that all roads must lead to Obama's failure so you refuse to even entertain the thought that Bush left him a time bomb waiting to explode.

    Again Maliki was re-elected in 2010......and BO had an Ambassador to Iraq there at the time. Bush had nothing to do with Maliki from 2009 and up until BO denied Maliki help in Nov of last year.

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It's not a "defense" against anything. It is just the way it is. You apparently believe Joe Biden to be an expert in Foreign policy. I said he is doing his job. Even I will admit he is not that bright. He's a grass roots kind of guy not a expert in anything but politics.
    The problem with Maliki is that we put all our "eggs" in him. He was the symbol of the new "democratic Iraq" we created so forcibly deposing him was not too appealing. Bush was in a rush to get a Govt. going and the CIA seemed to think he was the only choice at the time. Our bad but not Obama's fault at all.
    Your problem is that all roads must lead to Obama's failure so you refuse to even entertain the thought that Bush left him a time bomb waiting to explode.
    I just love how libs threw a fit when Bush was in but now its all good with their guy.
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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Again Maliki was re-elected in 2010......and BO had an Ambassador to Iraq there at the time. Bush had nothing to do with Maliki from 2009 and up until BO denied Maliki help in Nov of last year.
    Saddam got "re-elected" every time he ran also, that's how "democracy" works in Iraq. Maliki is an Iranian terrorist and I can't believe you think we should have supported him without question or conditions. Do you have even a shred of respect for the lives of our troops? I suppose you would want us to go along with Maliki's death squads as they rounded up Sunni's too. Our soldiers were being attacked by BOTH sides of this civil war and acted as targets for the jihadists too. It is unacceptable to place our soldiers into such a situation again.

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Saddam got "re-elected" every time he ran also, that's how "democracy" works in Iraq. Maliki is an Iranian terrorist and I can't believe you think we should have supported him without question or conditions. Do you have even a shred of respect for the lives of our troops? I suppose you would want us to go along with Maliki's death squads as they rounded up Sunni's too. Our soldiers were being attacked by BOTH sides of this civil war and acted as targets for the jihadists too. It is unacceptable to place our soldiers into such a situation again.

    Where have I said we should have supported Maliki at all.....let alone, talking ridiculously about without question or conditions. Or that we should be helping him with his death squads? I doubt you can ever say I was saying such a thing even from what you are responding to. Face the facts BO had to deal with him and so did BO's Ambassador. There is no getting around that Fact. Has nothing to do with Bush.

    Do I have even a shred of respect for the lives of our troops......now that's real funny. You ever shed any blood for this country? Ever put your ass on the line for your buddies and your unit, your country? When you get to that part about leaving pieces of yourself in some foreign land and most of your buddies. Then get back to me.

    Evil only triumphs when good men do nothing about it. Its already been stated that it is not just our problem and nor should we just need to be the one to deal with the issue. That doesn't mean we just rely on others. We are part of the solution.....like it or not.

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Where have I said we should have supported Maliki at all.....let alone, talking ridiculously about without question or conditions. Or that we should be helping him with his death squads? I doubt you can ever say I was saying such a thing even from what you are responding to. Face the facts BO had to deal with him and so did BO's Ambassador. There is no getting around that Fact. Has nothing to do with Bush.

    Do I have even a shred of respect for the lives of our troops......now that's real funny. You ever shed any blood for this country? Ever put your ass on the line for your buddies and your unit, your country? When you get to that part about leaving pieces of yourself in some foreign land and most of your buddies. Then get back to me.

    Evil only triumphs when good men do nothing about it. Its already been stated that it is not just our problem and nor should we just need to be the one to deal with the issue. That doesn't mean we just rely on others. We are part of the solution.....like it or not.
    Greetings, MMC.

    Very well said!

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I just love how libs threw a fit when Bush was in but now its all good with their guy.
    Leftist policy is nothing but Double standards

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    Re: Obama has had accurate intelligence about ISIS since BEFORE the 2012 election Re

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    LBJ = "...I'm not going to send our boys 9 or 10 thousand miles around the world to do the job that young Asian boys should be doing for themselves..."

    Sound familiar?
    We also marveled after the fact that so little was done to prevent the Holocaust and Bill Clinton's greatest regret is Rwanda. Bill Clinton Regrets Rwanda Now (Not So Much In 1994) - ABC News

    But he had the excuse that Rwanda was not threatening the United States. Genocide is happening in the ME, in large part created by the United States and its more minor coalition powers. Every nation first involved should be back there again, as well as others who were slow to help out earlier, with only the military involved. Barrack Obama should somehow be removed, or remove himself, from the decision making processes. No country feels confident of success with BHO making life and death decisions.

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