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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Well.. I think its obvious. The city of Ferguson is obviously is hiding something... [/FONT][/COLOR]
    That isn't obvious to me after reading your link. I see this as them passing on fees to reporters who want information. Information costs. The city of Ferguson doesn't exist to feed material to the media.

    The AP needs to do a better job running their own business. In the future, don't request something without finding out the cost in advance.

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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That isn't obvious to me after reading your link. I see this as them passing on fees to reporters who want information. Information costs. The city of Ferguson doesn't exist to feed material to the media.

    The AP needs to do a better job running their own business. In the future, don't request something without finding out the cost in advance.
    $135 an hour when the city pays that worker gathering the information 13.50?
    "Price-gouging for government files is one way that local, state and federal agencies have responded to requests for potentially embarrassing information they may not want released. Open records laws are designed to give the public access to government records at little or no cost, and have historically exposed waste, wrongdoing and corruption.

    Ferguson told the AP it wanted nearly $2,000 to pay a consulting firm for up to 16 hours of work to retrieve messages on its own email system, a practice that information technology experts call unnecessary. "

    Sounds like an unreasonable price.


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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Well.. I think its obvious. The city of Ferguson is obviously is hiding something... [/FONT][/COLOR]

    hahaha...Using the demo tactic.....That's wonderful....
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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    $135 an hour when the city pays that worker gathering the information 13.50?
    "Price-gouging for government files is one way that local, state and federal agencies have responded to requests for potentially embarrassing information they may not want released. Open records laws are designed to give the public access to government records at little or no cost, and have historically exposed waste, wrongdoing and corruption.

    Ferguson told the AP it wanted nearly $2,000 to pay a consulting firm for up to 16 hours of work to retrieve messages on its own email system, a practice that information technology experts call unnecessary. "

    Sounds like an unreasonable price.
    You're a smart guy. I know you don't think that the only cost involved in the hourly pay of a worker.

    Information costs money. Everything costs money. The city of Ferguson isn't in business to feed the media.

    Why would you think they have something to hide if they're giving out the information that they can, for a fee? They're providing it, so obviously they don't have anything to hide. Refusal to provide it would be an indication that they are hiding something.

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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You're a smart guy. I know you don't think that the only cost involved in the hourly pay of a worker.

    Information costs money. Everything costs money. The city of Ferguson isn't in business to feed the media.

    Why would you think they have something to hide if they're giving out the information that they can, for a fee? They're providing it, so obviously they don't have anything to hide. Refusal to provide it would be an indication that they are hiding something.
    I recently had to gather donor info for a person who is running for office. The freedom of information request cost me a total around $20. It was around 40 pages. Was in the office for around 45 minutes.


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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I recently had to gather donor info for a person who is running for office. The freedom of information request cost me a total around $20. It was around 40 pages. Was in the office for around 45 minutes.

    How big was the office?

    How many requests were they dealing with?

    This is not an average situation for freedom of information requests
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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    How big was the office?
    County office.


    How many requests were they dealing with?
    No idea. Nor should that have to do with anything because the government is not a profit and demand...

    This is not an average situation for freedom of information requests
    What is then? If you have the information please provide it...


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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nor should that have to do with anything because the government is not a profit and demand...
    The heck it shouldn't.
    If the person/s is swamped with such requests they are being taken away from other tasks.
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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The heck it shouldn't.
    If the person/s is swamped with such requests they are being taken away from other tasks.
    Isnt that their task to provide and ready documents to the public?


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    Re: Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Isnt that their task to provide and ready documents to the public?

    It costs to do so.
    Last edited by Excon; 09-29-14 at 11:29 PM.
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