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    California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Gov. Jerry Brown announced Sunday that he has signed a bill that makes California the first in the nation to define when "yes means yes" and adopt requirements for colleges to follow when investigating sexual assault reports.
    State lawmakers last month approved SB967 by Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, as states and universities across the U.S. are under pressure to change how they handle rape allegations. Campus sexual assault victims and women's advocacy groups delivered petitions to Brown's office on Sept. 16 urging him to sign the bill.
    De Leon has said the legislation will begin a paradigm shift in how college campuses in California prevent and investigate sexual assaults. Rather than using the refrain "no means no," the definition of consent under the bill requires "an affirmative, conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity."
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    I just wonder how they are going to make it work. I mean, how two people are going to express or confirm their mutual consent before sex? Cause all these nods and movements are not solid especially when you are drunk. You need something more trustworthy, something that would prove you were serious – the next morning.
    I suggest some fast sex consent services, preferably automatic, than would scan you two and print a written consent.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Oh great now were going to have idiots presenting their absurd interpretations of this law again.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    From what I read, the main problem are not the existing laws, but the fact that authorities ignored cases of sexual assault and didnt take victims serious.

    So this is just what my German-English dictonary translates as "tokenisitik".

    It serves no purpose other than attempting to create the illusion that something is done about the problem.

    Whilest the real cause of the problem is ignored.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
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    I just wonder how they are going to make it work. I mean, how two people are going to express or confirm their mutual consent before sex? Cause all these nods and movements are not solid especially when you are drunk. You need something more trustworthy, something that would prove you were serious – the next morning.
    I suggest some fast sex consent services, preferably automatic, than would scan you two and print a written consent.
    This is a bad law with too many loopholes and too floppy of definitions. Kids are dumb and will do dumb things that will allow this law to be taken advantage of.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is a bad law with too many loopholes and too floppy of definitions. Kids are dumb and will do dumb things that will allow this law to be taken advantage of.
    No, the previous condition had too many things open to interpretations.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, the previous condition had too many things open to interpretations.
    No, originally it was lack of enforcement. This law will be abused, its designed for nothing more than getting more people into the penal system, justice is of no concern.
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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
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    I just wonder how they are going to make it work. I mean, how two people are going to express or confirm their mutual consent before sex? Cause all these nods and movements are not solid especially when you are drunk. You need something more trustworthy, something that would prove you were serious – the next morning.
    I suggest some fast sex consent services, preferably automatic, than would scan you two and print a written consent.
    Sex Contracts?

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh great now were going to have idiots presenting their absurd interpretations of this law again.
    Thank you for the first interpretation. You're prediction was spot on.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, originally it was lack of enforcement. This law will be abused, its designed for nothing more than getting more people into the penal system, justice is of no concern.
    No, originally you had rapists getting let go because of high priced lawyers fighting over what consent is.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: California bill requiring college students to give consent before sex becomes law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sex Contracts?
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