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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And what gets me is charges by you that yer President could care less about Iraq.
    And the constant lies about polls when the coward Boehner stays out of DC and deserts the troops.
    Afraid of what one of his caucus may say before the election .
    Fact-Obama pulled out of Iraq for politics in an election season. Fact-Obama's generals, as well as the Iraqi's warned him what could happen if he left. Fact-Obama knew about ISIS 2 years ago, and did nothing as they expanded and grew.

    Sorry if the truth stings.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Whose sons and daugters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters are you willing to send to fight the war you advocate.
    We've had enough of this Cheney/Rumsfeld loss of treasure and lives.
    And the residuals left over from Iraq that were NEVER planned for .
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think we should-but ONLY with the resolve to fight the war. That means an extended presence, likely for decades. But thats after killing the enemy.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fact-Obama pulled out of Iraq for politics in an election season.
    Fact--Obama followed Bush's timeline and Maliki disengranchised the Sunnis who now fight for ISIL.
    Sorry you won't face the real truth let alone address my previous facts .
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I would prefer a small presence to maintain stability and preserve life.
    While you continue to rewrite history in a dishonest way .
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Here is an ISIS fighter boasting that the air strikes are not militarily effective.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/29/world/...terviews/index.

    Sadly, he is probably right. ISIS is an army of militiamen operating is relatively small groups whose main armoured vehicles are pick up trucks turned into Mad Max style "technicals". Most supplies- and they dont need alot, are requisitioned from the locals (voluntarily, forcibly or coerced) and transported in individual civilian trucks. Likewise, there are not alot of easily demarcated front lines in the fighting.

    As the similarily orgainized Serbs demonstrated in Kosovo, these types of forces mix in with civilians and can be very difficult to identify and stop. Then factor in that ISIS includes members who are veterans of both Iraq and Afghan conflicts who probably have a long list produced list of "dos and donts" produced by Darwinism when it comes to avoiding precision airstrikes.

    In short, my guess is that effective air strikes need US spotters on the ground.
    That is certainly right as far as the structure of the organization is concerned. But the full fledged assault of a territory or siege of a city can be quite effectively broken by air strikes.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    The truth most people here don't know is ISIS is Hammas and Hammas is ISIS.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Whose sons and daugters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters are you willing to send to fight the war you advocate.
    We've had enough of this Cheney/Rumsfeld loss of treasure and lives.
    And the residuals left over from Iraq that were NEVER planned for .
    Cut and run has been discredited multiple times. Obama is responsible for this loss of life, even if he is weakly attempting to blame others (who are hitting back hard).

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Fact--Obama followed Bush's timeline and Maliki disengranchised the Sunnis who now fight for ISIL.
    Sorry you won't face the real truth let alone address my previous facts .
    Fact, Obama took credit for ending the war-he didn't credit Bush. Fact-Obama decided to veer from the plan (SOFA, listening to his generals which Bush actually did).

    FACT-Obama has been POTUS for 6 years its pathetic to blame Bush for this.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Whose sons and daugters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters are you willing to send to fight the war you advocate.
    We've had enough of this Cheney/Rumsfeld loss of treasure and lives.
    And the residuals left over from Iraq that were NEVER planned for .
    "We"? At whom is your thumb pointing? I do not know about Cheney, but Rumsfeld fought a very effective invasion. The mistake, if it was that, was that too little force was exerted by too few soldiers.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    While you continue to rewrite history in a dishonest way .
    I dont write history, let alone re-write it.

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