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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Not mine.
    Oh? In what scenario do you see ISIS coming out and publicly claiming anything other than the strikes not being effective?

    Given the totality of the circumstances (veteran fighters long experienced with US air strike capabilities, advance notice of the impending strikes, ease of blending in with civilians) and given the fact that other motivated and similarily positioned opponents (Serbs in Kosovo) were able to mitigate alot of the air strikes, I would come to the realization that ISIS may well be telling the truth.
    But those things you're describing isn't "Whether or not ISIS is coming out publicly and claiming it". Those are OTHER factors that are leading you to make your decision.

    Those factors are potentially reasonable ones to make a determination on whether or not you think the strikes are being effective.

    That's entirely different then just taking ISIS for it's word as a singular reason, or one of the main reasons, to come to such a conclussion.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Our COIN (counter insurgency) tactics are superb and amongst the best in the world, but not if we dont have the resolve to use them, and not if we dont have at least general order in the country.

    Regardless of how this turns out, we will need to keep a limited military presence there for decades.
    If by "don't have the resolve," you mean "aren't willing to murder enough people in the process," then I agree.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our armed forces were crafted to adjust to any threat. Plus, we just spent 10 years fighting and defeating irregular forces.
    Except that they weren't defeated.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If by "don't have the resolve," you mean "aren't willing to murder enough people in the process," then I agree.
    I mean not willing to fight the war Obama has committed to fighting-if he does not have the resolve he should never have gone in, hes been anti-war since his earliest days.

    This is all for politics-he wants a war to win the senate. It wont work.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Except that they weren't defeated.
    When you pull out and leave the nation to terrorists, they will fill the vacuum.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I mean not willing to fight the war Obama has committed to fighting-if he does not have the resolve he should never have gone in, hes been anti-war since his earliest days.

    This is all for politics-he wants a war to win the senate. It wont work.
    So we shouldn't enter this fight?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So we shouldn't enter this fight?
    I think we should-but ONLY with the resolve to fight the war. That means an extended presence, likely for decades. But thats after killing the enemy.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think we should-but ONLY with the resolve to fight the war. That means an extended presence, likely for decades. But thats after killing the enemy.
    Bush said the fight would go on a very long while, Obama finally agreed with him 13 years later, but there is not much confidence in Obama being willing to see this thing through. He's probably already looking at a withdrawal timeline.

    Will Harry Reid repeat what he said about the troops seven years ago? Senator Reid On Iraq: "This War Is Lost" - CBS News

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Except that they weren't defeated.
    Well, yeah, they were.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Bush said the fight would go on a very long while, Obama finally agreed with him 13 years later, but there is not much confidence in Obama being willing to see this thing through. He's probably already looking at a withdrawal timeline.

    Will Harry Reid repeat what he said about the troops seven years ago? Senator Reid On Iraq: "This War Is Lost" - CBS News
    What gets me is that Obama could care less about Iraq. He's only there now because of polls, and he will likely revert after the election.

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