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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So does bad foreign policy, like we've seen in the Middle East for decades now.
    True.
    Problem is when it concerns the Middle East, it seems hard to figure out what is good foreign policy. It's so massively complicated over there. So many different religious groups and different countries all wanting different things.
    My dad (a retired army Major in the infantry) said it was easier back in the cold war days with the Soviet Union. He said there was us and there was them. Everyone in the Middle East was either an us or a them. Two sides, all in uniform, no complications.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact terrorism had shrunk until Obama pulled the troops from Iraq. As George Bush said, it will take years before the Islamists are defeated, and after ignoring his advice Barrack Obama (and Panetta) now feel the same way.

    Had they carried on where Bush left off, and followed the advice of the CIA and the military, the Middle East would look quite different today. Obama only fights to win domestically.
    They didn't "shrink" they just bided their time until the power vacuum in Syria and the genocidal Govt. we left in Bagdad made the conditions right for their revival.
    Playing "whack a mole" while your presence is creating more terrorists by the day is not a plan for victory. Obama is trying something else. There is nothing like a Muslim army fighting a Muslim army to take the wind out of the extremists sails.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Anna Noblesse View Post
    True.
    Problem is when it concerns the Middle East, it seems hard to figure out what is good foreign policy. It's so massively complicated over there. So many different religious groups and different countries all wanting different things.
    My dad (a retired army Major in the infantry) said it was easier back in the cold war days with the Soviet Union. He said there was us and there was them. Everyone in the Middle East was either an us or a them. Two sides, all in uniform, no complications.
    Yes, the no uniforms thing is the difficult part. Now 'civilians' are on a head hunting campaign throughout the democracies (though in the US it's called 'workplace violence') and from a terrorists pov it's a great way to fight a war. It makes sense that they cannot defeat the democracies militarily so what better way? The thing is that the west has to start thinking from the terrorists point of view rather than the old fashioned ideas of war. A real problem also is that the democracies lack a leader.

    Putin would have made a good ally at this time.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    They didn't "shrink" they just bided their time until the power vacuum in Syria and the genocidal Govt. we left in Bagdad made the conditions right for their revival.
    Playing "whack a mole" while your presence is creating more terrorists by the day is not a plan for victory. Obama is trying something else. There is nothing like a Muslim army fighting a Muslim army to take the wind out of the extremists sails.
    There were 55 deaths in Iraq the year, the entire year, Obama withdrew the troops from Iraq. How does that compare with today?

    You feel that ISIS killing other Muslims will solve the problem? Is that Obama's recently discovered strategy?

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Anna Noblesse View Post
    I highly doubt ISIS wants to see American ground troops. I believe they are scared to death of American troops. If done correctly it would be the end of ISIS.

    Correctly means a massive invasion that completely destroys ISIS. If we aren't willing to go all out, with an overwhelming ground force, then we shouldn't be involved in the war at all.
    That shows what you know. ISIS was born fighting Americans. They know we die like everybody else and our presence will bring thousands of new recruits to them. You think those beheadings are because they are scared of us? They want us to come back so they can kill and capture us for all the world to see. As far as an overwhelming force goes don't kid yourself that is impossible. ISIS will set hundreds of IED's and "hole up" among civilians and dare us to come and get them. Casualties' will be high and so will civilian deaths. We must resist the notion that we are the only force in the world, a combined Muslim army would be invincible with our help.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That shows what you know. ISIS was born fighting Americans. They know we die like everybody else and our presence will bring thousands of new recruits to them. You think those beheadings are because they are scared of us? They want us to come back so they can kill and capture us for all the world to see. As far as an overwhelming force goes don't kid yourself that is impossible. ISIS will "hole up" among civilians and dare us to come and get them. Casualties' will be high and so will civilian deaths.
    Obama had a chance to kill them while they were wide open in the desert and he didn't. That lack of will, and foresight, raises the question of whose side this guy is really on. Incompetence can play a role but Obama is taking it to a whole new level.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There were 55 deaths in Iraq the year, the entire year, Obama withdrew the troops from Iraq. How does that compare with today?

    You feel that ISIS killing other Muslims will solve the problem? Is that Obama's recently discovered strategy?
    LOL I said they would bide their time and they did. We need to solve the problem of Iraq not act as a buffer keeping the sides apart until we leave. I do feel that sending Americans will only cause more to join ISIS so an army of Muslims would be far superior. Don't you think we should find out who are enemies are before we commit more troops to die or do you think we can afford to wage a war on all the Muslims in the ME? That is what may happen if we send in an army again.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama had a chance to kill them while they were wide open in the desert and he didn't. That lack of will, and foresight, raises the question of whose side this guy is really on. Incompetence can play a role but Obama is taking it to a whole new level.
    You sound like as good a General as your namesake. When exactly was ISIS "wide open"?

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    =iguanaman;1063842006]LOL I said they would bide their time and they did.
    Obama could have made them bide their time a few more generations rather than withdraw the troops prematurely.
    We need to solve the problem of Iraq not act as a buffer keeping the sides apart until we leave. I do feel that sending Americans will only cause more to join ISIS so an army of Muslims would be far superior. Don't you think we should find out who are enemies are before we commit more troops to die or do you think we can afford to wage a war on all the Muslims in the ME? That is what may happen if we send in an army again.
    There is no evidence that more terrorists were being recruited while the troops were in the Middle East. None! Now that Obama cut and run of course there is going to be more recruits. They now feel this is a war they can win.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You sound like as good a General as your namesake. When exactly was ISIS "wide open"?
    Within the past couple of weeks. You can look it up.

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