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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, I understand the pending Islamic State operation in Kobani, but what are you saying about the Turks?
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

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    You said the Viet Cong raised their flag over Saigon. That tells me you don't know.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Kobani is the town & it has more than 160,000 refugees. According to Ralph Peters the Isis Army could have been effectively bombed
    when they were out in the open before they entered the town with B52's or a similiar platform but Obama has our guys flying around with precision guided bombs good for pin prick strikes.
    Peters is correct, though it's worth pointing out that A) B52's can drop PGMs and B) That is a way to increase collateral damage, which can rapidly degrade political support for a bombing campaign.

    But yeah. It looks like kinda like we are about to abandon the Kurds because we aren't willing to put resources towards helping them. Again.

    You cant help but notice that the intensity & type of bombing fall miserably short of what is needed. Does Obama want to win here? I think its obvious he doesnt. He just wants to look like he's doing something so he is not blamed for the massacre that is going to take place if they take Kobani.
    I think you are absolutely correct on that, except I would add that it's very likely that he probably also just wishes this would all just go away.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, I understand the pending Islamic State operation in Kobani, but what are you saying about the Turks?
    The Turks aren't doing a damn thing to help.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    You know, with all of these conservatives clamoring to aid the Kurds of Northern Syria, am I the only one who sees an irony here? We spent the better part of the last century fighting against communism. The Kurdish fighters fighting against ISIS in Northern Syria, including those in the vicinity of Kobani, are comprised principally of guerrillas from People's Protection Units, which are the military wing of the Democratic Union Party, which, in turn, is an affiliate of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in Turkey. The PKK is the communist-inspired political party which fought a separatist guerrilla war and terror campaign against Turkey for almost three decades. Now we have all of these conservatives, who spent most of my life screaming about the threat of communism, clamoring to aid them because they've turned over a new leaf and are our friends now. Just goes to reinforce the old proverb: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Turks aren't doing a damn thing to help.
    If you study the history a bit, you'll see why.

    Turkey's tough choice: Take on ISIS or the PKK?
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    If you study the history a bit, you'll see why.

    Turkey's tough choice: Take on ISIS or the PKK?
    I already know why.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already know why.
    Then you know why the the Turks "aren't doing a damn thing to help" and that you're wasting pixels.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    You cant help but notice that the intensity & type of bombing fall miserably short of what is needed. Does Obama want to win here? I think its obvious he doesnt. He just wants to look like he's doing something so he is not blamed for the massacre that is going to take place if they take Kobani.
    "Falling miserably short" pretty much describes everything Obama has ever attempted. Everything he touches turns to ****.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our armed forces were crafted to adjust to any threat. Plus, we just spent 10 years fighting and defeating irregular forces.
    What was that? Uhmmm, we did? They seem to be larger and more ominous than ever...everywhere now.

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