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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The dilusion, is the notion that American forces can't defeat insurgents, in the field. You can scream the, "political objective", spin all you want, but it doesn't change reality.
    You are both right. I think it is safe to say that those who welcomed the Americans as 'liberators' the first time would certainly welcome them again now.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You are justifying the killing of civilians by saying it isn't as bad as WW2?

    So America launches another "experiment' like the fire bombing of Dresden but kill 20% less civilians it's peachy?
    There were more British planes than American planes involved and the good guys won. There should be no regrets about defeating a murderous regime.

    The fact is that civilians will always be killed in a war and if you have any idea how that can be avoided you should patent it now.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We defeated the insurgents in Iraq. They damn didn't defeat our forces.
    Yeah, and the Viet Cong didn't defeat us, either. Have you seen the flag of Vietnam recently?

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    I mean, I'm confused. What's the point in not being defeated if you still lose? In the present case we have ISIS, which, whether you want to admit it or not, grew out of the old al-Qaeda in Iraq, sitting within a few miles of Baghdad, breaking into prisons, holding parades in Fallujah and other places we "liberated," and assuming effective control of territory the size of Belgium. What did we win here?

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Yeah, and the Viet Cong didn't defeat us, either. Have you seen the flag of Vietnam recently?

    vietnam-flag.gif

    I mean, I'm confused. What's the point in not being defeated if you still lose? In the present case we have ISIS, which, whether you want to admit it or not, grew out of the old al-Qaeda in Iraq, sitting within a few miles of Baghdad, breaking into prisons, holding parades in Fallujah and other places we "liberated," and assuming effective control of territory the size of Belgium. What did we win here?

    ISIS parades on outskirts of Baghdad - The Long War Journal
    We destroyed the VC in 168.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We destroyed the VC in 168.
    I presume you meant 1968--during the Tet Offensive. Yeah, we did, and they still won.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We defeated the insurgents in Iraq. They damn didn't defeat our forces.
    How do you say that when our forces left and they are still there menacing?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There were more British planes than American planes involved and the good guys won. There should be no regrets about defeating a murderous regime.

    The fact is that civilians will always be killed in a war and if you have any idea how that can be avoided you should patent it now.


    You completely ignore the intent of the post.

    So, wtf does the fact British planes were also involved have to do with the unnecessary firebombing of Dresden?

    FFS, you reduce civilian casualties, not justify them.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How do you say that when our forces left and they are still there menacing?
    The ones there, now, came from Syria.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I presume you meant 1968--during the Tet Offensive. Yeah, we did, and they still won.
    They didn't defeat us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    I presume you meant 1968--during the Tet Offensive. Yeah, we did, and they still won.
    As in Iraq, Vietnam became political and the military was not defeated. The Democrats got their way both times.

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