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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Easy to conquer; impossible to hold and govern.
    That's what people thought about Japan.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    AQ in Iraq, The Taliban. I don't recall them defeating our armies.
    The Viet Cong and the NVA didn't defeat our armies, either. They still won.

    Anyway, the core of al-Qaeda in Iraq was not defeated, my friend. Rather, it was driven underground and across the border into Syria. It, along with other Sunni insurgent groups that we fought, was instrumental in the creation of the Mujahideen Shura Council, which has since morphed into ISIS. And, yeah, we kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan so they could regroup in Pakistan, unless this is your definition of defeat:

    KABUL, Afghanistan — Two suicide attacks targeting military transport vehicles here on Wednesday killed seven Afghan soldiers and wounded nearly 20 others, officials said, one of the deadlier strikes on security forces in the capital since the summer fighting season began.

    Taliban Stage Attacks One Day After Afghanistan and U.S. Sign Security Deal
    That was today--in Kabul, the capital. They just want us to know they're still there, but they're largely biding their time, waiting for us to withdraw after what will have been fourteen years in the country. You can bet your sweet bippy they'll come knocking on Afghanistan's door in force come Spring.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    The Viet Cong and the NVA didn't defeat our armies, either. They still won.

    Anyway, the core of al-Qaeda in Iraq was not defeated, my friend. Rather, it was driven underground and across the border into Syria. It, along with other Sunni insurgent groups that we fought, was instrumental in the creation of the Mujahideen Shura Council, which has since morphed into ISIS. And, yeah, we kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan so they could regroup in Pakistan, unless this is your definition of defeat:



    That was today--in Kabul, the capital. They just want us to know they're still there, but they're largely biding their time, waiting for us to withdraw after what will have been fourteen years in the country. You can bet your sweet bippy they'll come knocking on Afghanistan's door in force come Spring.
    The point is, we defeated the enemy in the field.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's what people thought about Japan.
    Only after we incinerated or nuked a million or so civilians. Can't do that anymore. It's not nice. We're supposed to be nice people now.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    No. I thought I was clear on that. Obama cannot declare war and has not asked Congress to declare war. Congress won't do diddly until their fat asses get re-elected to a life of power and privilidge.



    Throw enough **** on the wall and some of it will stick. That was the justification for Bush's War. As to the UN, bull****. Washington never listens to the UN unless it's to Washington's advantage. Further, the U.S. doesn't take marching orders from the UN. No one believes any justification for Bush's War.



    No, I didn't. There was no reason to invade the sovereign nation of Iraq. Democrats and Republicans never debated on declaring war on Iraq. They wussed out, balls.



    You want to play partisan gotcha. Find another mother, brother. I don't place partisan gotcha. There is the Corpgov system that runs Washington. It lets you those of you who need a convenient party follow either faction of the Corpgov system. Either way you get ****ed. It's all run by big money. Your Big money guy Bush was sponsored in part by Big Oil. Your man Obama was sponsored by the Crown family - General Dynamics.

    All the Corpgov old guard favors war. It doesn't really matter which faction you support, Dems or GOP, it's still Corpgov and they'll get what they want because they control the compliant masses.

    You seem to believe that because I don't support the actions of one fraction (you call them parties) that I am a supporter of the other party. Wrong. How about I don't support either faction? A growing number of Americans are waking up to the third choice, which is neither faction and no Corpgov.
    Geeezus.

    Its not about partisan gotcha...its about taking responsibility. Its about owning actions and not making excuses.You keep missing the point that a defender of the faith would rather call your guy an impotent bitch rather than accept he made a reasoned rational choice and one which he believes in.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Only after we incinerated or nuked a million or so civilians. Can't do that anymore. It's not nice. We're supposed to be nice people now.
    We would have taken Japan anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The point is, we defeated the enemy in the field.
    And we still lost and are losing again. What's the point of a tactical victory if the outcome is still a strategic loss?
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Geeezus.

    Its not about partisan gotcha...its about taking responsibility. Its about owning actions and not making excuses.You keep missing the point that a defender of the faith would rather call your guy an impotent bitch rather than accept he made a reasoned rational choice and one which he believes in.
    i don't know what he did, Vance. I am of the opinion that Obama was convinced, for reasons I don't know, that bombing would work. You know as well as I that bombing isn't going bring ISIS to an end.

    Who convinced Obama? People who have more to gain from perpetual war than the poor bastards who will fight it, and their families, and broke and war weary Americans.










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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    i don't know what he did, Vance. I am of the opinion that Obama was convinced, for reasons I don't know, that bombing would work. You know as well as I that bombing isn't going bring ISIS to an end.

    Who convinced Obama? People who have more to gain from perpetual war than the poor bastards who will fight it, and their families, and broke and war weary Americans.
    Polls show war weary Americans want the bombing and that is why OB is doing it

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    AQ in Iraq, The Taliban. I don't recall them defeating our armies.
    Lol, they're both still alive and well and conducting attacks. No one has been "defeated"!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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