Anyway, the core of al-Qaeda in Iraq was not defeated, my friend. Rather, it was driven underground and across the border into Syria. It, along with other Sunni insurgent groups that we fought, was instrumental in the creation of the Mujahideen Shura Council, which has since morphed into ISIS. And, yeah, we kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan so they could regroup in Pakistan, unless this is your definition of defeat:
That was today--in Kabul, the capital. They just want us to know they're still there, but they're largely biding their time, waiting for us to withdraw after what will have been fourteen years in the country. You can bet your sweet bippy they'll come knocking on Afghanistan's door in force come Spring.KABUL, Afghanistan — Two suicide attacks targeting military transport vehicles here on Wednesday killed seven Afghan soldiers and wounded nearly 20 others, officials said, one of the deadlier strikes on security forces in the capital since the summer fighting season began.
Taliban Stage Attacks One Day After Afghanistan and U.S. Sign Security Deal
Its not about partisan gotcha...its about taking responsibility. Its about owning actions and not making excuses.You keep missing the point that a defender of the faith would rather call your guy an impotent bitch rather than accept he made a reasoned rational choice and one which he believes in.
Who convinced Obama? People who have more to gain from perpetual war than the poor bastards who will fight it, and their families, and broke and war weary Americans.
"When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf