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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Please explain to our listening audience EXACTLY HOW Obama "lost the peace (no cap, it isn't a movie yet) in Iraq".....
    Already done, and Im not here to spoonfeed you.

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    Obama's f#&@in' up....

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    How do you know that we need to do more? Are you with the CIA or the military? Do you have information that the government is not sharing with us?



    If ISIS does that then they are no longer taking additional territory, and they no longer pose a significant threat to the area. It's mighty hard to be in charge when you are hiding.



    If ISIS goes into hiding, then we won't have the need to hit them. Our mission will be accomplished. At least until they morph into the next muslum extremist group, and then we will have to repeat. This is something that is going to keep happening until muslums are willing to give up on extremism, which likely isn't going to be any time soon. Iraq will not be safe from radical groups until the next iron fist evil dictator, like Saddam Husein, takes over.
    20 years active duty and another 26 working for the military as a Department of the Army Civilian. Retired from active duty in 1986 and from DOD in 2012. True for the most part about taking territory. If they move into hospitals, etc with all their commo, internet capabilities, and business capabilities and can operate from a hospital, mosque or school, they are still in business and really haven’t been that much degraded. They just moved from one bombed out structure into another they figure we will not bomb.

    They will also be keeping all the territory they have conquered up to this point. Once their infrastructure and backbones are more or less secured, they can use small groups to attack and infiltrate shall I say Baghdad and other cities. Move more to a guerrilla campaign instead of more or less conventional warfare, hit and run, attack and retreat, sapper attacks etc. There are tons of possibilities to continue their attacks and gain some ground here and there, only utilizing different means and ways.


    You may call moving headquarters, essential personnel, the planners, generals if you will, financial experts, tacticians, strategists, the leaders and their immediate subordinates and staffs into hospitals, mosques and schools and other areas that we find hard or lack the will to hit, bomb because of our concern for civilians, kids, old men and women, the sick, etc. hiding. I don’t, I call it smart strategy.

    ISIS will continue to have the capabilities they do now, only they will be operating from more or less safe havens. That is not exactly what I call mission accomplished.

    To answer your other question, no I have no inside knowledge. None what so ever. I really haven’t been paying much attention to the air strikes even. Outside of hearing on the news more were conducted. So you probably know more about what is being reported than I. I just gave my opinion on the air strikes, how I would figure whether they are being successful or not.

    I really do not like to listen to all the talking military heads on the news channels, they give their view according to the political slant they believe in and the station they are a host, contributor or whatever on.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure you did. Is it REALLY so hard for you to say "Obama declared war and/because it is the right thing to do"? Or at LEAST because he BELIEVED it was the right thing to do and not because he was tricked and coerced by Fox News and those evil republicans? Geeeeeezus. It's the same pathetic thing again and again and again. It's not his fault. He didn't know. The rotate his homework. The sun was in his eyes. Fox News was mean to him.
    Vance, Obama didn't declare war other than "declaring war on war", which is virtually meaningless. It is like giving someone the sleeves out of your vest.

    As you know only Congress has the power to declare war and that gaggle of wastrels doesn't have the balls to even debate the possibility of war. If it does debate war it won't be until most of those gutless selfserving pussies have been re-elected. Such is their sense of urgency and allegiance, or shameful lack thereof.

    Obama cannot declare war and Congress won't even feckin talk about it.

    You know what? Liberal politicians believed Saddam Hussein was a threat long before George Bush. They cite his threat and possession of WMDS long before Bush. Clinton took us to war citing genocide, just as Bush did. And Barrack Hussein By God Obama ****ed up, underestimated the ISIS threat, and is trying to rectify his mistake by striking them of his own free will and choice.
    The American people were lied to, shucked and jived regarding Iraq. We must have heard 5 reasons on why we needed to invade Iraq, all of them bogus and the tally in loss of human lives and suffering and the financial costs were/are astronomical. No war was declared. The public would never have signed on had they known the truth.










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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Here is an ISIS fighter boasting that the air strikes are not militarily effective.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/29/world/...terviews/index.

    Sadly, he is probably right. ISIS is an army of militiamen operating is relatively small groups whose main armoured vehicles are pick up trucks turned into Mad Max style "technicals". Most supplies- and they dont need alot, are requisitioned from the locals (voluntarily, forcibly or coerced) and transported in individual civilian trucks. Likewise, there are not alot of easily demarcated front lines in the fighting.

    As the similarily orgainized Serbs demonstrated in Kosovo, these types of forces mix in with civilians and can be very difficult to identify and stop. Then factor in that ISIS includes members who are veterans of both Iraq and Afghan conflicts who probably have a long list produced list of "dos and donts" produced by Darwinism when it comes to avoiding precision airstrikes.

    In short, my guess is that effective air strikes need US spotters on the ground.
    ISIS would change their mind in a heart beat if one of our air strikes happened to be nuclear.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our armed forces were crafted to adjust to any threat. Plus, we just spent 10 years fighting and defeating irregular forces.
    What irregular forces have we defeated?
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    What irregular forces have we defeated?
    That would be none.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Vance, Obama didn't declare war other than "declaring war on war", which is virtually meaningless. It is like giving someone the sleeves out of your vest.

    As you know only Congress has the power to declare war and that gaggle of wastrels doesn't have the balls to even debate the possibility of war. If it does debate war it won't be until most of those gutless selfserving pussies have been re-elected. Such is their sense of urgency and allegiance, or shameful lack thereof.

    Obama cannot declare war and Congress won't even feckin talk about it.



    The American people were lied to, shucked and jived regarding Iraq. We must have heard 5 reasons on why we needed to invade Iraq, all of them bogus and the tally in loss of human lives and suffering and the financial costs were/are astronomical. No war was declared. The public would never have signed on had they known the truth.
    And yet...we are now dropping bombs. So...are we 'at war' or not?

    Bush gave many reasons to the American people. They were not lies. Saddam committed acts of genocide. Saddam refused to comply with UN mandates re the disposition of his chemical weapons program. We KNOW that to be true because the UN passed SEVENTEEN resolutions demanding he do so. Saddam DID harbor and fund global acts of terror.

    You conveniently ignored the part about democrats in congress spending 10 years declaring the dangers of Saddam and his WMD program, all long before Bush took office.

    But NONE of that was the point of the thread you responded to. The point was that it is about ****ing time democrats stop lying about their actions. That they stop pretending it wasnt them, that they didnt know, that they werent engaged. Stop excusing them. Stop blaming others for their actions. Good lord...imagep would rather call Obama an impotent spineless bitch that was trick-****ed by Fox News into launching military attacks rather than admit Obama is responsible for his own actions and choices. Thats pathetic beyond words.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That would be none.
    That's what I thought.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Not effective? Maybe. But as a boxing fan all my life, I've lost track of how many times I've seen a guy get rocked by a punch, and then back away grinning and shaking his head. That is usually a reliable sign that it hurt.

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