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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our armed forces were crafted to adjust to any threat. Plus, we just spent 10 years fighting and defeating irregular forces.
    Defeating?

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Dog and pony shows can be very effective. And if that is all it is intended to be, then it IS working.
    Dog and pony shows can be effective political stunts, and thats all this is. Obama going to war for the senate.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    If a degree of democracy is the same thing as mob rule, then I'm all for mob rule. At least it's an organized mob following rules and proceedures. I find that preferable to any alternative.
    Pure democracy would be a tyranny.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    If a degree of democracy is the same thing as mob rule, then I'm all for mob rule. At least it's an organized mob following rules and proceedures. I find that preferable to any alternative.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pure democracy would be a tyranny.
    We don't have pure democracy, it has never existed anywhere. The closest we can come to it is a representative democracy, which is more or less what we have. But for that matter, every other option is also tyranny, other than anarchy (which has also never really existed for more than a brief period of time). Someone always rules.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Someone always rules.
    So then give me the option with the least amount of "rule" by others. Thats not a direct democracy.

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Dog and pony shows can be effective political stunts, and thats all this is. Obama going to war for the senate.
    Yup.

    And he might be a hero for "winning" a "ten year war" a week before the election.

    That's my conspiracy theory anyhow.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So then give me the option with the least amount of "rule" by others. Thats not a direct democracy.
    Like like being ruled by a warlord or the church?

    That's pretty much what happens when we don't have a strong central government.
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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    So it looks like ISIS, Boehner and Ron Paul are all in agreement. Why doesn't it surprise me that conservatives find allies among violent fundamentalists?

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    Re: ISIS Boasts Air Strikes are not Effective

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I mean not willing to fight the war Obama has committed to fighting-if he does not have the resolve he should never have gone in, hes been anti-war since his earliest days.

    This is all for politics-he wants a war to win the senate. It wont work.
    Resolve? His resolve is to impose massive social change here at home. I don't think he has much interest in foreign affairs. And I also don't think that he fundamentally "gets it."

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