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    Re: Afghan president to sign deal Tuesday allowing US troops to stay after 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Technically they were stopped from doing it, thats all.
    Stopped from doing what? What is "it"?


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    Re: Afghan president to sign deal Tuesday allowing US troops to stay after 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I disagree. "enough death, misery, and pain til the the enemy knows it is too much to continue to wage." ends up being slaughter in the fog of war. It was tried one and off again in Korea and Vietnam. Since WWII wars have become more strategic, surgical strikes etc. But you have to have a starting point, what is the objective beyond scorched earth?

    As with Afghanistan, and now Iraq there is no strategic objective, no way to tell success from failure other than the "daily body count" of Vietnam.
    There has to be a way to get these Arab countries to deal with what they are breeding in their own back yards.
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    Re: Afghan president to sign deal Tuesday allowing US troops to stay after 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There has to be a way to get these Arab countries to deal with what they are breeding in their own back yards.

    Sometimes the required action in critical situations is nothing. As a middle manager, one realizes that continued super-human effort, whether working more or bombing more cannot be sustained. The only course of action is to let the system fail. Soon, people, management or government, realize the cost in financial and human terms and make changes.

    I have never understood Obama's rush to appease the Arab world while arming arming rebels and drone bombing ; the apology was like saying "I'm sorry" while kicking a guy in the nuts a second time. Certainly those seeing themselves as horribly wronged by the US laughed out loud and signed up some new recruits. I suspect he thought there were recognizable "sides" and that he was on one of them because he said so. I suspect once the Muslim world realizes superman isn't coming this time they will begin to sort out their own differences in their way, medieval as hell, but it will be a solution.

    This proxy war and wars by other names isn't working.
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