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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Defense department works for Obama. Again, the commander says 2009. Punditfact is known for being less than honest. I'll take the commander's word and the word of the foreign press. I'm blaming Obama because the facts as I see them point right to him and not to a commander who has nothing to gain by offering a lie.
    Oh god. Yup you caught em. Its all a conspiracy.


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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh god. Yup you caught em. Its all a conspiracy.
    The president lies, and his administration lies for him as well. It was the video. You can keep your health insurance. You can keep your doctor. Not a smidgen of corruption at the IRS. Why would I believe much of anything that comes from this administration or anything they control? If they told you the sky was green you'd agree and swear to it on a stack of manifestoes.

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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The president lies, and his administration lies for him as well.
    Baghdadi was released in 2004. If you have a problem with factual information that is your own problem. You can still try to blame it on Obama, but the facts do not align with your petty rhetoric.


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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Baghdadi was released in 2004. If you have a problem with factual information that is your own problem. You can still try to blame it on Obama, but the facts do not align with your petty rhetoric.
    You willingly repeat whatever you're told. Baghdadi was released in 2009 because the commander of Bucca recognizes him as the man released in 2009. You can believe Obama. I'm buying the commander's factual and first hand account - you know, the guy who was actually there and saw it. I already have reason to disbelieve this administration.

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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    To those who find this to be a good thing. What say you about the indefinite detaining of American citizens?
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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears BO has to make a decision over these Prisoners in Afghanistan, secret prisoners.....note the last resort to take them into a US Judicial System. If they were caught in battle against us.....then we need to take them out and execute them. Otherwise they will just take up the fight somewhere else. What interests me was the Russians captured. What say ye?
    The Russians are most likely Chechens.
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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You willingly repeat whatever you're told.
    Isnt that ironic...

    Baghdadi was released in 2009 because the commander of Bucca recognizes him as the man released in 2009. You can believe Obama. I'm buying the commander's factual and first hand account - you know, the guy who was actually there and saw it. I already have reason to disbelieve this administration.
    Again no he wasnt.

    "WASHINGTON — When the U.S. military detained Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in Iraq in 2004, it was too inexperienced at dealing with suspected terrorists to know what kind of threat he potentially posed when it released him just 10 months later, those who worked in the military detention system at that time now concede.

    A review of documents made public by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks makes clear that commanders were crafting standard operating procedures even as they took in ever more detainees, tackling questions as basic as how often to conduct headcounts. According to Wikileaks, the military produced 40 documents in 2004 reviewing procedures at Camp Bucca, indicating the camp was a work in progress.


    Baghdadi had been arrested in February 2004 along with several others in the western Sunni-dominated city of Fallujah and was held at the military’s Camp Bucca in southern Iraq until he was released in December of that year, the Pentagon said.

    It wasn’t until 2006, long after Baghdadi had been released, that the U.S. began keeping detailed records on it detainees, including collecting biometrics to help in identifying individuals who, like Baghdadi, might be using a number of aliases."
    WASHINGTON: Unprepared U.S. officials missed Baghdadi’s likely al Qaida connection during 2004 detention | Iraq | McClatchy DC


    ""Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim Al Badry, also known as 'Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi' was held as a 'civilian internee' by U.S. Forces-Iraq from early February 2004 until early December 2004, when he was released," the Pentagon told us in a statement. "He was held at Camp Bucca. A Combined Review and Release Board recommended 'unconditional release' of this detainee and he was released from U.S. custody shortly thereafter. We have no record of him being held at any other time."

    In short, according to the Defense Department, the man who heads Islamic State was set free in 2004, long before Obama took office, and he was not recaptured."
    Actor James Woods: Obama ordered the release of Islamic State leader | PunditFact


    ""Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim Al Badry, also known as ‘Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’ was held as a ‘civilian internee’ by U.S. Forces-Iraq from early February 2004 until early December 2004, when he was released," the Pentagon said in a statement. "He was held at Camp Bucca. A Combined Review and Release Board recommended ‘unconditional release’ of this detainee and he was released from U.S. custody shortly thereafter. We have no record of him being held at any other time."
    Fox's Pirro: Obama set ISIS leader free in 2009 | PunditFact

    "The Pentagon says that Mr. Baghdadi, after being arrested in Falluja in early 2004, was released that December with a large group of other prisoners deemed low level. But Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi scholar who has researched Mr. Baghdadi’s life, sometimes on behalf of Iraqi intelligence, said that Mr. Baghdadi had spent five years in an American detention facility where, like many ISIS fighters now on the battlefield, he became more radicalized."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/wo...f-a-rebel.html


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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    For the terrorist, a military tribunal and death. For the Taliban soldier or fighter, threat them as POW's and keep them in GITMO until the president of Afghanistan says different. I see a difference between the two.
    Why.....the Taliban isn't a fielded army. Treat them like the Terrorists they are.

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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    To those who find this to be a good thing. What say you about the indefinite detaining of American citizens?
    Well I don't think terrorists are about indefinite detaining of American Citizens. So why would there be that worry?

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    Re: U.S. may keep Secret Prisoners in custody after Afghan War exit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The Russians are most likely Chechens.
    Heya Mr.I. Yeah I figured.....I was just wondering about the numbers. Seems the one running things inside Syria. Knows what he is doing.

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