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Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

shrubnose said:
When you talk about people being reasonable you're asking for something that's not going to happen.

Reason has no place in conversations about race for a lot of people, unfortunately.
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Yeah, you're proving that! :lamo
 
ThePlayDrive said:
It's good move by the Justice Department. I also think that whoever has the authority to do so should discipline, if not fire, the officers who participated in such behavior. At the very least, such behavior demonstrates that the officers in question have extremely poor judgment and thus, are not doing their jobs effectively.
Beyond that, what the behavior by many of the white officers in Ferguson shows is that their (at the very least) "racial insensitivity" is very real.
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Anyone who doesn't see that is blind to reality.
 
shrubnose said:
The U.S. Justice Department asked the Ferguson, Missouri Police Department on Friday to order its officers not to wear bracelets in support of the white policeman who shot to death a black teenager last month, sparking protests.

Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-tells-ferguson-police-stop-wearing-bracelets-004135604.html35

I don't know what you think but it looks to me like it will be a long time before there's ever any peace in Ferguson, Missouri.

Basically what those cops are telling people is that they're going to do whatever they want to do.

I don't believe that's going to bring people together.

What do you think?
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This is nothing more than union solidarity, from what I can see. Out of curiosity, under what authority would the US Justice Department presume to order a local police department's conduct?
 
Redress said:
Do you really think the police cannot make and enforce uniform regulations amongst it's officers?
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It is not the police, it is the DOJ telling them what to do.

Why would they listen to what they have to say?
 
j-mac said:
haha...So you back the PC dictate because it furthers the "racist" meme coming from such hacks as Holder eh...I say they tell Holder to pound sand....Screw him.
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I agree with the first part, but the second part could get messy.
 
Lutherf said:
I saw this yesterday. The DoJ is so far out of bounds on this whole issue I can't believe that it's being tolerated. The idea that the federal government has the right to come in and dictate how a local police matter will be handled is absurd to begin with and now they are dictating that only one side on the issue has a right to free speech.
One of these cops needs to bring suit.
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Bring it on.

Do you seriously think that he can beat the DOJ? :roll:
 
ThePlayDrive said:
It's good move by the Justice Department. I also think that whoever has the authority to do so should discipline, if not fire, the officers who participated in such behavior. At the very least, such behavior demonstrates that the officers in question have extremely poor judgment and thus, are not doing their jobs effectively. Beyond that, what the behavior by many of the white officers in Ferguson shows is that their (at the very least) "racial insensitivity" is very real.
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Discipline, or fire them on what grounds. So far, these officers haven't broken any rules.
 
1750Texan said:
The Justice Department needs to dissolve this whole mess have the state patrol or the county sheriff take over policing in Ferguson....post haste.

Get rid of the whole lot. Get rid of the cancer.
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You think the resident will act any differently with other officers inthe area?

Somehow I doubt it.
 
shrubnose said:
Bring it on.

Do you seriously think that he can beat the DOJ? :roll:
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Sure they can. Much to your disappointment, people still have rights in this country.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
You castigate "everyone" in your comment, but nobody but the officers in question are responsible for their unprofessional behavior. I can't imagine why you would even criticize other people in the context of the OP.
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Should everybody that supported Brown be arrested and jailed?

Why punish one side without the other.

No verdict has been rendered in this case.

Is it only acceptable to support a black person but not a white person?
 
Redress said:
Do you really think the police cannot make and enforce uniform regulations amongst it's officers?
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Certainly, the can. When did they US Justice Department gain the authority to do so?

And as an aside, as I've noted above, this is in my view a union display of solidarity with a fellow officer. The police union here in Toronto frequently uses tweaks to their assigned uniform as a means of "job action" when upset about some initiative, or negotiations, or treatment of an officer. Sometimes they wear union baseball caps instead of their mandated hats, etc.

Surely, you're not against union activism, are you?
 
shrubnose said:
Not going to happen, the DOJ will continue its fight against racism in the USA no matter how much that upsets a few people on the right..
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Oh bull****, they aren't fighting racism there but encouraging it. The DOJ under Holder and Obama is more obstructive than constructive. It's okay to break the law if you are a certain color, after all, you are owed. It's okay to loot and riot, that's all the fault of those mean old racist police. And it not okay for the police to support each other. That's this DOJ. Man I so regret voting for Obama the first time.
 
shrubnose said:
Not going to happen, the DOJ will continue its fight against racism in the USA no matter how much that upsets a few people on the right..
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Since when is the defense of a fellow union member an act of racism?
 
shrubnose said:
When you talk about people being reasonable you're asking for something that's not going to happen.

Reason has no place in conversations about race for a lot of people, unfortunately.
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Can you point out where in your OP it indicates that only white police officers are wearing these bands? Are you claiming that black officers on the Ferguson PD aren't wearing the bands? If that's the case, it would have a tinge of race to it - if not, if all officers are wearing them, your comments about race and others comments about race are a crock.
 
shrubnose said:
I'll let you figure that out for yourself.
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Sorry, I don't think in terms of race - never have, never will - you made the claim so I expect you'd be able to back it up, presuming you're not too embarrassed to try.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Sorry, I don't think in terms of race - never have, never will -
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 you made the claim so I expect you'd be able to back it up, presuming you're not too embarrassed to try.
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You don't live in Ferguson, Missouri so you have no idea what the black people who live there have put up with for many years.
 
Redress said:
Do you really think the police cannot make and enforce uniform regulations amongst it's officers?
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The department yes, federal DOJ pressuring a regulation makes me I
Uneasy, however if I were the chief I'd've banned the bracelets in uniform myself
 
shrubnose said:
You don't live in Ferguson, Missouri so you have no idea what the black people who live there have put up with for many years.
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Do YOU live in Ferguson Missouri?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The department yes, federal DOJ pressuring a regulation makes me I
Uneasy, however if I were the chief I'd've banned the bracelets in uniform myself
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Why would you ban them?
 
apdst said:
Why would you ban them?
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To keep tensions down, and preset a professional image. You can wear whatever you want off duty, on department time officers should not be presenting personal opinions in a way likely to indicate dept support of said opinions
 
EMNofSeattle said:
To keep tensions down, and preset a professional image. You can wear whatever you want off duty, on department time officers should not be presenting personal opinions in a way likely to indicate dept support of said opinions
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So, the only way to keep tensions down, is for the officers to admit thst Wilson is guilty of a crime? Give in to the rioters?
 
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