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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    I think it's ironic that Obama saw the need to say about Trayvon "That could be me"
    yet, DOJ demand Ferguson police to remove bracelets.


    The DOJ didn't demand anything. It asked that this be done.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, as it relates to authority, it would be the equivalent of Al Sharpton ordering the Ferguson PD to remove the bands.

    Do you find it at all troubling
    , perhaps a conflict of interest, perhaps political intimidation or an attempt at illegal influence, for the Justice Department of the United States, a JD that has initiated an investigation into racism in the Ferguson PD, to try to wield authority they don't actually have?


    What I find really troubling is the fact that the members of the Ferguson Police Department wouldn't see that wearing those wristbands shows that they are prejudiced about this case.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What I find really troubling is the fact that the members of the Ferguson Police Department wouldn't see that wearing those wristbands shows that they are prejudiced about this case.
    Cops are assholes - they're their own breed of crazy.... Until Sharpton gets involved its everybody vs everybody. Then it's black vs white or Asian.

    Everyone involved are terrible people.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What I find really troubling is the fact that the members of the Ferguson Police Department wouldn't see that wearing those wristbands shows that they are prejudiced about this case.
    And yet you don't see that the Justice Department exhibits its own kind of prejudice by asking them to ban the wearing of the wristbands while at the same time conducting an investigation of the Ferguson PD. That, in itself, indicates a certain prejudice or bias against the Ferguson PD on your own part.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is nothing more than union solidarity, from what I can see. Out of curiosity, under what authority would the US Justice Department presume to order a local police department's conduct?
    It might very well be that. But the case isn't resolved. Lots of people on both sides have made their minds up, but we don't actually know what really happened, and there has been no trial or other process to resolve the big differences in the accounts.

    And in the meantime, while policing protests by the black community over this incident, POLICE OFFICERS ON DUTY are wearing bracelets saying "I AM [the person whose actions you are protesting]" It's a giant FU to the protesters. The DOJ letter also said they'd received reports that at least some of those seen wearing the bracelets had also blacked over their names with tape, which is a further FU to the protesters.

    Seriously, do you think wearing a bracelet saying "I AM [THE ACCUSED PERSON]" and blacking over their name tag is a good way to signal to the public you serve that you're a trusted and impartial defender of the law? It's unprofessional and shouldn't be tolerated, especially in a volatile situation that the police are supposed to be working to make less so, not pouring gas on the flames, which those bracelets and blacking over name tags just does. Whether DOJ has the authority to request or demand this I have no idea, and it's largely beside the point. It shouldn't be happening.

    The time and place for supporting their union member and fellow officer is off duty on their own time and in civilian clothes.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And yet you don't see that the Justice Department exhibits its own kind of prejudice by asking them to ban the wearing of the wristbands while at the same time conducting an investigation of the Ferguson PD. That, in itself, indicates a certain prejudice or bias against the Ferguson PD on your own part.
    Speaking of prejudice, let's say you're a Ferguson police officer being interviewed by DOJ. What would you think if the investigator wore a bracelet, "I AM MICHAEL BROWN"?

    It takes the common sense of a gnat to realize the bracelets shouldn't be worn by anyone in an official capacity anywhere near Ferguson MO.

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The U.S. Justice Department asked the Ferguson, Missouri Police Department on Friday to order its officers not to wear bracelets in support of the white policeman who shot to death a black teenager last month, sparking protests.

    Read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/justice-depart...4135604.html35

    I don't know what you think but it looks to me like it will be a long time before there's ever any peace in Ferguson, Missouri.

    Basically what those cops are telling people is that they're going to do whatever they want to do.

    I don't believe that's going to bring people together.

    What do you think?
    From your link:

    Protesters have pledged continued civil unrest until Wilson is charged in Brown's death and on Friday night several dozen people gathered in downtown Ferguson to call for Jackson's ouster.
    It seems that the "protest" (including rioting, looting and property damage) has little to do with police uniform policy and everything to do with demanding that a predetermined action be taken by the grand jury. Why should the DOJ have the power to "suggest" that anyone not express an opinion while they are under investigation by the DOJ?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What I find really troubling is the fact that the members of the Ferguson Police Department wouldn't see that wearing those wristbands shows that they are prejudiced about this case.
    That prejudice is in the form of peacefully supporting the presumption of innocence (letting the grand jury decide if criminal charges are warranted) rather than rioting, looting and damaging the property of others in an attempt to coerce a proper decision.
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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Why should the DOJ have the power to "suggest" that anyone not express an opinion while they are under investigation by the DOJ?
    The DOJ has 'suggested' that officers not wear the bracelets while on duty policing those protests. And AFAIK, those officers aren't under investigation, and they aren't being prohibited from expressing an opinion on the case. They just are being asked/told that while on duty they don't pour gasoline on the damn fire by announcing their own biases.

    Again, would you approve or disapprove if DOJ investigators wore bracelets, "I AM MICHAEL BROWN" while interviewing Ferguson PD? Of course not...

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    Re: Justice Department tellsFerguson police tostopwearing bracelets

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The DOJ has 'suggested' that officers not wear the bracelets while on duty policing those protests. And AFAIK, those officers aren't under investigation, and they aren't being prohibited from expressing an opinion on the case. They just are being asked/told that while on duty they don't pour gasoline on the damn fire by announcing their own biases.

    Again, would you approve or disapprove if DOJ investigators wore bracelets, "I AM MICHAEL BROWN" while interviewing Ferguson PD? Of course not...
    Really?

    Justice Department Investigates Ferguson Police - ABC News
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