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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Because there was a national uproar about it. I would be willing to bet he comments on this if there is one as well.
    The "national uproar" as you put it was brought about by race hustlers, and news outlets bent on promoting the Obama/Holder agenda of racial dividing for political gain. But your question was in why should Obama comment on this situation, and I would say that we have a situation where Obama is now using the Bush doctrine to go after the terror army ISIS, a known morph of AQ, whom he said they had decimated, and all but killed (which was a lie ofcourse). You can find the hypocritical truth of that by simply asking yourself why he doesn't say a thing about the hundreds of black on black shootings of a similar nature in Chicago every year...Not a peep from him on that Nooooo. Why? Because it wouldn't have furthered the false narrative that America is still a racist nation...Which ofcourse is just a cover for him to dodge any criticism for the terrible job he does as President by being able to evoke racism at any criticism.

    There are an average of 44 murders per day in the United States (by far the highest in the developed world). Everyone of them is a tragedy. Do you want the president to address the nation for each and every one of them? We kill each other in this country at quite a rate. Hell more people die from murder in any given year in this country then terrorists would killed in at least a couple of centuries.
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    "Washington (CNN) – As terrorism increasingly becomes a tactic of warfare, the number of attacks and fatalities soared to a record high in 2012, according to a new report obtained exclusively by CNN.

    More than 8,500 terrorist attacks killed nearly 15,500 people last year as violence tore through Africa, Asia and the Middle East, according to the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism."

    Terrorist attacks and deaths hit record high, report shows – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

    Now this is the total of murders in the US in a given year...

    2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
    Total 15,087 14,916 14,224 13,752 12,996

    EconomicPolicyJournal.com: How People Are Murdered in the United States

    Now by looking at this even though the numbers are 2012 for terrorism, and 2010 for murders, they represent the latest numbers out by these organizations, and even comparable in amount. But, the number of terrorist killings in the world at this point in time outweighs the number of homicides in the US. So we can conclude about your statement here that either you pulled the number out of your arse, or are just plain out lying about it in order to diminish the state of war Obama has us in today, against the enemy that has called for exactly this scenario to occur. Either way, it is a bogus argument.
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What's yours? If shooting enemy soldiers is terrorism, what makes US soldiers not terrorists? If anything, enemy soldiers are basically the only "legitimate" targets in war.

    I would call Ft. Hood a war crime, murder, and treason. Why is that so offensive to conservatives?
    It's terrorism, if terrorists do it. Hasan is an Islamic terrorist.
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I didn't say anything about the borders.
    You did say a problem within the boarders of the US
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    You could call all war terrorism by that definition. But that would stretch the definition in common usage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. My point is that religious motivation is not inherently terrorism. But in both situations now Fox News Lady has fixated on the fact that HE SAID MUSLIM THINGS THEREFORE TERRORISM.

    As for Ft. Hood, since when is shooting at enemy soldiers terrorism? I mean, we shot at Iraqi soldiers as a means to change the policies of Saddam's government!

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    You could call all war terrorism by that definition. But that would stretch the definition in common usage.
    In the past it was defined as

    Acts of violence or threats of acts of violence directed at civilians in order to shape and change government policy

    But now it changes to suit the will of the government (US in the following examples)

    Russian actions in Ukraine have been called terrorism, Syrian government actions vs rebels (including ISIS) have been called terrorism.

    Of course some in the US will call any act by a muslim to be terrorism, while calling the same act to be a murder or the act of a deranged person,

    Ie the Sikh temple shooting Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're refusing to give your own definition of terrorism by deflecting and asking mine. You made a statement which was:



    Therefore you must have a definition of what is or is not terrorism so I'm asking, nicely, what that definition is which produces your quoted opinion above.
    I would define it as the unlawful use of violence, threats, or other fear-inducing tactics against civilian or other non-combatant targets in furtherance of a political goal.

    Use of violence against military targets tends to be referred to as "war."
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's terrorism, if terrorists do it. Hasan is an Islamic terrorist.
    Ahh, so Hassan's actions were terrorism because he is a terrorist. And he's a terrorist because he commits terrorism!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    My point is that you perceive any random murder committed by a Muslim as "a problem within our borders" that the President must personally deal with, but you don't perceive the same about any random murder committed by any other demographic.
    This was a random murder?

    Do you not see the similarity between this one and some things we have seen over there?

    How many random murders involve beheading?

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You did say a problem within the boarders of the US
    That means in the US. I made no mention of border crossers.

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think the challenge people have in separating the two is the "Allah Akbar" chants and the ties to terrorist groups and individuals that have formed a common thread between these murderers.

    It's kind of a mystery why people work so hard to deny the obvious.

    Perhaps the demands from the PC patrol requires rejection of any connection that appear to be plausible.
    Except "Allah Akbar" isn't a "terrorist phrase," and so far I've seen no evidence that this guy had any ties to a terrorist group. (Although I haven't watched the news much for the last couple days)
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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