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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    I bet it was a white guy that shot the black kid.

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

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    Fox News is going on about how this might be terrorism.

    If a man commits murder, but shouts "praise Jesus" when he does it, does that make the difference between murder and terrorism?
    No, but if he chants "Hare Krsna", or "Praise Jim Jones in the People's Temple!", or "Aum Shinrikyo", or "Chicago Rippers for Satan", or "Free their souls to join the Mothership on Heaven's Gate", or "Viva Matamoros", or "Helter Skelter", or "Blacks are Supreme in the Nation of Yahweh!" ....

    Then Justifiably, that incident will get more attention than others.

    There are some cults and sects that have EARNED their reputation and special wary treatment!

    Well, Islam is well on its way to being among that august company.

    Many will put the term "Radical" in front, to be PC and Nice, but fact is, you can't tell if they are the Radical type or not, until you've already treated all of Islam with more than usual caution.

    It is greatly in Islam's interest to put a stop to the Radicals!

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not familiar with incidents such as what you're referencing. Have there been incidents of workplace violence in which the murderer shouted "Praise Jesus"?
    Does that matter? The concept is the focus of the question. Murder + being religious = terrorist?

    We saw the same discussions from the Ft. hood shootings. Fox News went on and on how it wasn't fair they didn't call it terrorism because Hassan shouted "Allah Akbar." That was it. That was the detail that made it terrorism.

    So my question is, is religious motivation for killing inherently terrorism?
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Given the man's attempts to convert the subject to Islam, and Islam's propensity for beheadings, the assumption of a link, though only an assumption at this point, is very reasonable.

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

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    because Obama is a radical hack..

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Does that matter? The concept is the focus of the question. Murder + being religious = terrorist?

    We saw the same discussions from the Ft. hood shootings. Fox News went on and on how it wasn't fair they didn't call it terrorism because Hassan shouted "Allah Akbar." That was it. That was the detail that made it terrorism.

    So my question is, is religious motivation for killing inherently terrorism?
    I don't know what evidence Fox News offered at the time that Nidal Hasan was motivated by a belief in Islamic jihad to murder a dozen unarmed soldiers at Fort Hood, but it's beyond question that he was. When Hasan was working at Walter Reed in 2000, he sometimes went to the Dar al Hijrah Islamic center outside D.C. to listen to the sermons of a new imam there, Anwar al-Awlaki. This had been a great promotion for Awlaki, who before that had preached at a dingy little mosque in San Diego. In his spare time, he mentored two of the 9/11 hijackers, who had landed at LAX on January 15 on a flight from Kuala Lumpur. Another jihadist had set them up right away in San Diego and then handed them off to Awlaki.

    The two followed Awlaki to the D.C. area, where they lived for some time before taking part in the 9/11 attacks. After that, Awlaki apparently felt things were getting a little too warm and hied himself off to Yemen, where his family had come from. There he put his good English and knowledge of American culture to use as an Al Qaeda recruiter, holding forth on a jihadist website. Even though Awlaki was a U.S. citizen, Mr. Obama skipped all that messy due process stuff and had him executed with a drone a few years ago--but not before Awlaki had served as a religious counselor to Hasan. "Egghead" Hasan, frustrated that he couldn't even get anyplace with the girls at the strip clubs he frequented, was getting more and more sulky. He pouted and fumed about somehow striking at America for killing Muslims in Iraq, but little cupcake that he was, he lacked the stomach to do anything but yap.

    Then Hasan remembered his old imam from years before at Dar al Hijrah. When he learned Awlaki was in Yemen, he began to email back and forth with him. And when Awlaki assured him that Allah would smile on any forceful action he might take against the American infidels, it gave Hasan the grit he needed, one fine day in Texas, to shoot down a bunch of unarmed people. I realize the Muslim jihadists' helpmates in this country would like to cover all this stuff up, but it won't work.

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    But we are told the Muslims in the US are peaceful and there is nothing to worry about.

    How many of these incidents have to happen before we hear on any news channel or from the President that there is actually a problem inside the borders of the US?

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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    The guy was fired from that place of work

    He had a religious tattoo referencing Jesus and another in Arabic stating peace be with you

    The fact he was fired from that workplace generally indicates more of a workplace revenge aspect to the murder then any sort of terrorism cause
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    Re: FBI looking into Moore beheading after suspect tried to convert others to Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    But we are told the Muslims in the US are peaceful and there is nothing to worry about.

    How many of these incidents have to happen before we hear on any news channel or from the President that there is actually a problem inside the borders of the US?
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