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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Obama is not a great president,he's somewhere in the middle. Bush is one of the worst ever and history will record that.
    Based on what exactly? His ability to call criticism racist?
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Actually the two worst presidents in history to this point are Jimmy Carter and Barack "Hussein" Obama.
    It's too early to tell. But if you're talking about Presidents within our own lifetimes, I think you may have a point.

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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Based on what exactly?
    His ability to call criticism racist?


    Do some research, I'm not going to waste my time telling you what you can find out for yourself.

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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    It's too early to tell. But if you're talking about Presidents within our own lifetimes, I think you may have a point.


    Believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do a little research you will discover that most historians don't agree.

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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Do some research, I'm not going to waste my time telling you what you can find out for yourself.
    Because you can't back up your claim.
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Do some research, I'm not going to waste my time telling you what you can find out for yourself.
    No, you'll just throw out silly statements with nothing to back them up then pull some stupid **** like this post here...As such you are dismissed.
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Directly taking on ISIS.
    So you're saying his head is finally out of the sand?

    That seems to be the context of the thread.

    Obama's war didn't have to be: It is in large part a result of the president's wishful thinking approach to foreign policy. Why has the Islamic State been able to run amok defeating U.S.-trained Iraqi armies and capturing Iraqi cities; slaughtering, torturing, and persecuting thousands of innocent Christians, Yazidis, and Muslims; looting U.S. war materiel; making a mockery of our efforts in Iraq and threatening our consulates and embassies?

    Because Obama ignored the Islamic State and played down their effectiveness in a vain effort to wish away the urgent need to remain on a war footing against terrorism.

    Because he failed to engage with former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and that led to there being were no U.S. forces in Iraq that could have prevented the Inally slamic State's bursting out of Syria to take over large swaths of Iraq.

    Because the president created a vacuum for terrorists in Syria when he didn't take the opportunity to back up his own demands that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leave power but instead allowed the opposition to Assad to grow into a terrorist force that is now an army controlling territory in two countries.
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So you're saying his head is finally out of the sand?

    That seems to be the context of the thread.



    Expect Bitter Fruits From Obama's Half-Hearted War on Terror
    Except that we both know that the context of the thread is wrong if that is the point...Obama is truly a weak President that no one takes seriously on the world stage anymore. This whole thing is just one big photo op to hopefully help in the upcoming election. Pity that our service members lives are on the line for something that self serving.
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Except that we both know that the context of the thread is wrong if that is the point...Obama is truly a weak President that no one takes seriously on the world stage anymore. This whole thing is just one big photo op to hopefully help in the upcoming election. Pity that our service members lives are on the line for something that self serving.
    "Truly a weak president"?

    How much news have you heard from the Ukraine lately? Not much news lately, huh? The ceasefire is fragile, but it's holding...and Putin isn't sending any more convoys of trucks to support the rebels. He's being very quiet on the matter...and as you watch, the rebellion there will slowly diminish...and die.

    Why will it die? Because Putin's not supporting it as he had so strongly two months ago. Why the relatively sudden lack of support from Putin? Because of a solid bloc of political and economic pressure from NATO and the EU (which solid bloc was built and is led by the guy you think of as a "weak president"), compounded with the economic sanctions that are taking an increasing toll on the Russian economy. Obama is slowly and surely helping Putin to realize that he - Putin - can't wield the power that the premiers of the USSR once did, that any new "Cold War" would not be one between virtual equals as it once was, but instead one that Putin could not win.

    Y'all really need to step back and realize that the velvet glove of diplomacy is every bit as important as - and sometimes much more important than - the mail'd fist of armed might that glove conceals. It's that same velvet glove of diplomacy that has gotten several of the other nations of the Arab League to join in the fight against ISIL...and UAE's air strike was led by a female pilot.
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    Re: Obama leaves UN a changed statesman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because you can't back up your claim.


    Did you ever hear of innocent until proven guilty?

    Let's see you prove me wrong.

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