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    Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    A small number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. will have an opportunity to join the military for the first time in decades under a new Department of Defense policy unveiled Thursday.

    The new rules will expand an existing program allowing recruiters to target foreign nationals with high-demand skills, mostly rare foreign language expertise or specialized health care training.

    For the first time, the program — known as Military Accessions in the National Interest, or MAVNI — will be open to immigrants without a proper visa if they came to the U.S. with their parents before age 16. More specifically, they must be approved under a 2012 Obama administration policy known as Deferred Action for Child Arrivals, or DACA.

    The new Pentagon policy may be the first phase of a broader government-wide effort to ease pressure on immigrants and create new paths to citizenship
    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    "Those targeted by recruiters under the MAVNI program likely will be immigrants with language skills critical to national security, such as Arabic, Chinese, Pashto or Persian."

    "The Pentagon program is capped at 1,500 recruits per year."

    "Obama, frustrated with the failure of Congress to pass any substantial immigration reform"

    #1 These immigrants have skills Americans don't have apparently.

    #2 They won't be flooding the military at any rate.

    #3 Congress is being a bitch about immigration reform.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    You read this stuff and your eyes want to roll to the back of your head! Almost everyday there is something else in the news pointing out the clueless are running the country at this time. There is no reason to accept illegals into the military except as part of an agenda to reach out to the hopeful future Democrat voting block. This administration slashed the 2014 military budget. Prior to the budget, the drawdown of Army troops had begun ( 10k in 2013 ). After the severe cuts to the budget this year for 2015.............................................. .

    Because of budget pressures, the pace of the ongoing drawdown has been accelerated, so that active component manning is slated to hit 490,000 by the end of fiscal 2015, which is 23,000 fewer soldiers than previously planned.

    In budget testimony and documents presented to Congress early this spring, Army leaders indicated the drawdown will continue through the end of 2017, when manning will hit 450,000 to 440,000.
    10K soldiers must go this year, 20K next year | Army Times | armytimes.com

    It is no secret that unemployment is high among vets who happen to be U.S. citizens yet these yahoos after reducing the size of our army adding many to the unemployment lines, want to give illegals an opportunity to serve? Someone who didn't even respect this country enough to follow our laws?

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    It's not the first time this has happened. We have had illegals join the military with the intent to become citizens in return for it.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    The government uses so many independent contractors in support of the military, why can't these people be in that category rather than being members of the Armed Forces?

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You read this stuff and your eyes want to roll to the back of your head! Almost everyday there is something else in the news pointing out the clueless are running the country at this time. There is no reason to accept illegals into the military except as part of an agenda to reach out to the hopeful future Democrat voting block. This administration slashed the 2014 military budget. Prior to the budget, the drawdown of Army troops had begun ( 10k in 2013 ). After the severe cuts to the budget this year for 2015.............................................. .



    10K soldiers must go this year, 20K next year | Army Times | armytimes.com

    It is no secret that unemployment is high among vets who happen to be U.S. citizens yet these yahoos after reducing the size of our army adding many to the unemployment lines, want to give illegals an opportunity to serve? Someone who didn't even respect this country enough to follow our laws?
    I just saw another newsflash about the Army laying off 10,000 personnel. So let's bring in illegals.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I just saw another newsflash about the Army laying off 10,000 personnel. So let's bring in illegals.
    Grow a pair and start quoting those who disagree with you.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    The government uses so many independent contractors in support of the military, why can't these people be in that category rather than being members of the Armed Forces?
    Taking the path of the PMC ultimately means you still won't be an American citizen even if you fight alongside Americans, that's a terrible deal.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Taking the path of the PMC ultimately means you still won't be an American citizen even if you fight alongside Americans, that's a terrible deal.
    I don't know what a PMC is, so I can't comment specifically about the deal you reference. Job---->Paycheck, could be a pretty good deal.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's not the first time this has happened. We have had illegals join the military with the intent to become citizens in return for it.
    I'm good with this......so long as they are properly vetted. Nobody wants to see turncoats on a massive scale in our actual military, like we've seen with our Afghan partners.

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