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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Yes. (See your post #62)



    Then perhaps you should study-up on DHS DACA policy not to mention INA law, section 329.



    True on both counts. There is no guarantee that anyone who puts their life on the line in defense of our country won't turn on us. But truth be told there have been far more instances of U.S. citizens turning against their homeland from Benedict Arnold to Edward Snowden than the reverse. So, your concern though warranted isn't a strong valid argument. Also, you're correct again in that not every military position involves combat. Those aliens (resident or otherwise) who would participate under the Military Accessions in the National Interest program would largely be linguist not combatants. But you'd be foolish to think that we've never had foreign linguist go on SpecOp assignments during any of our foreign wars.



    You're being petty here. Of course YOU wouldn't be personally denying anyone U.S. citizenship status, but I'm willing to be that if you could stamp their paperwork with "REJECTED" or "DENIED" in big, fat red letters you'd do it in a heartbeat!



    Again, see your post #62.
    It does seem as though through a number of steps that they have created a very small, winding path to citizenship. Of course, I'd be interested to know how many people are really in these categories:

    1. The applicant must be in one of the following categories at time of enlistment
    a. asylee, refugee, Temporary Protected Status (TPS), or
    b. nonimmigrant categories E, F, H, I, J, K, L, M, O, P, Q, R, S, T, TC, TD, TN, U, or V

    Maybe a few of those in the P-1 category might be really helpful.

    You make so many assumptions about how hateful and fear-mongering you think I am. I've said and done no such thing, but I will not stand idle and be your personal straw man.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    These people have nothing and are coming to the US to improve their lives and are only asking for the same rights your grandparents received. The US immigration policy when your grandparents came over made it VERY easy for someone of European descent to gain citizenship. They benefited from their access to this country, why on earth would you deny someone willing to enlist in the armed forces for getting the same benefits as your grandparents? Why are they different? The same things you're saying now was leveled at people like your grandparents when European immigrants from Italy, Ireland, Eastern Europe were coming over.
    They start off breaking the law. Seems to me it would make background checks and clearances a nightmare.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    It does seem as though through a number of steps that they have created a very small, winding path to citizenship. Of course, I'd be interested to know how many people are really in these categories:

    1. The applicant must be in one of the following categories at time of enlistment
    a. asylee, refugee, Temporary Protected Status (TPS), or
    b. nonimmigrant categories E, F, H, I, J, K, L, M, O, P, Q, R, S, T, TC, TD, TN, U, or V

    Maybe a few of those in the P-1 category might be really helpful.

    You make so many assumptions about how hateful and fear-mongering you think I am. I've said and done no such thing, but I will not stand idle and be your personal straw man.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    The prize tag is: US citizenship.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    1,500 a year is large scale to you? Wow! I'd hate to see what a flood of immigrants looks like then.
    1500 a year in the military without proper vetting, yeah that is a BIG deal. Sorry you can't see that.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then be upset that illegal immigrants are being used as political pawns, not because a select few would be allowed to go through a legal process granted them by law to gain U.S. citizenship status that's been in affect for decades.
    What law gives illegal aliens citizenship?
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What law gives illegal aliens citizenship?
    A phone and pen?

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    1,500 a year is large scale to you? Wow! I'd hate to see what a flood of immigrants looks like then.
    Maybe if you cared less about getting Democrat votes, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    A phone and pen?
    That would be about it.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    They start off breaking the law. Seems to me it would make background checks and clearances a nightmare.
    Well to be clear the program is only open to undocumented immigrants who came with their parents to the US before they were 16.
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