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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    I actually would consider an undocumented immigrant that serves more of an American than most Americans.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    How about an American Foreign Legion? Officers all American, enlisted all foreign.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's not the first time this has happened. We have had illegals join the military with the intent to become citizens in return for it.
    My buddies older brother joined the Marines and served in VietNam. I think there was lots of Canadians who did, but no idea if any used it as a route to citizenship. Mostly they just wanted in on the action, my guess.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I actually would consider an undocumented immigrant that serves more of an American than most Americans.
    You'd give him citizenship no questions asked.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I just saw another newsflash about the Army laying off 10,000 personnel. So let's bring in illegals.
    Often those who are serving do so to gain training that will make them more favorable in the jobs market from mechanics to communications to whatever. The benefits to further their education once their tour of duty is completed is another factor. Others enlist as a choice for life. As far as I know there is testing each soldier completes to better choose his field. If they have the aptitude for learning languages, the military places them where they are needed and provides the additional training. To offer these benefits to illegal immigrants over another U.S. citizen is insane and a slap in the face. And anyone who thinks this is a good idea is one French fry short of a Happy Meal, one brick shy of a full load.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yes, because clearly all "illegals" have the same character as gang members, so attributing sweeping and negative stereotypes to people who might qualify for this program who have agreed to serve the country is entirely appropriate.
    Welp, they already broke laws to get here. Why all of a sudden will they be awesome soldiers?

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I actually would consider an undocumented immigrant that serves more of an American than most Americans.
    So much I could say about that. But really it just makes me sad to know there are "americans" that feel that way.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Technically, it's not required, but fluency at the native level is. 09Limas do not receive language training, except in English if needed.

    The point of the job is to directly translate between the target language and English. Non-native speakers are not as good at it and those that are are few and far between.
    I was under the impression the military trained translators. If they do. Why the need for native level fluency if its not for spec ops or intel uses.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I was under the impression the military trained translators. If they do. Why the need for native level fluency if its not for spec ops or intel uses.
    These translators, the 09L native speakers, are specifically NOT for special operations or intelligence. Their role is to go out with patrols and translate for interactions with the natives population. Military trained linguists aren't heavily trained in speaking and don't usually achieve the fluency necessary, and they all do intelligence work.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    I don't have a problem with this.

    The only major problem is figuring out their past, considering our government has no way of figuring out weather one of these guys belonged to a drug cartel or had a criminal history in their "homeland" however, if someone wants to become a US citizen enough to actually go overseas and fight for our country and put their life on the line... I think that speaks volumes on their intent if they're honest.

    However I am concerned that many only serve for intelligence (spy) purposes or for training and operation reasons.

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