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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I don't know what a PMC is, so I can't comment specifically about the deal you reference. Job---->Paycheck, could be a pretty good deal.
    Go play Metal Gear Solid 4. Private Military Contractor.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    "Those targeted by recruiters under the MAVNI program likely will be immigrants with language skills critical to national security, such as Arabic, Chinese, Pashto or Persian."

    "The Pentagon program is capped at 1,500 recruits per year."

    "Obama, frustrated with the failure of Congress to pass any substantial immigration reform"

    #1 These immigrants have skills Americans don't have apparently.

    #2 They won't be flooding the military at any rate.

    #3 Congress is being a bitch about immigration reform.
    Democrats want amnesty, that's what the bitch is. Amnesty hasn't worked, it didn't work in the late 60's and not in the 80's.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Go play Metal Gear Solid 4. Private Military Contractor.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I'm good with this......so long as they are properly vetted. Nobody wants to see turncoats on a massive scale in our actual military, like we've seen with our Afghan partners.
    I agree, while it has been donein the past I don't think it has been done to the scale that the government wants to now which is dangerous IMO.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
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    So we have no Americans or legal aliens that can do this? Really?
    Not enough, and not enough willing to serve. The main thing is that the MOS that is being recruited for, 09L, requires native speakers. So that rules out training non-native speakers. So we would need a pool of native speakers, willing to serve, and willing to serve in this one MOS.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You read this stuff and your eyes want to roll to the back of your head! Almost everyday there is something else in the news pointing out the clueless are running the country at this time. There is no reason to accept illegals into the military except as part of an agenda to reach out to the hopeful future Democrat voting block.
    Or you really need the language skills and targeting people for whom this would be their only option to become citizens helps you a lot more and is cheaper than trying to recruit native speakers.

    It is no secret that unemployment is high among vets who happen to be U.S. citizens yet these yahoos after reducing the size of our army adding many to the unemployment lines, want to give illegals an opportunity to serve? Someone who didn't even respect this country enough to follow our laws?
    You'd have a point IF the Americans being kicked out were fluent native speakers of Mandarin, Farsi, Arabic, or Pashto.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    The government uses so many independent contractors in support of the military, why can't these people be in that category rather than being members of the Armed Forces?
    They do. But an enlisted soldier costs a lot less than the amount you have to pay a contractor. In Afghanistan, our native speaker U.S. citizen contracters were getting paid in the $200,000 range.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I just saw another newsflash about the Army laying off 10,000 personnel. So let's bring in illegals.
    Again, I'm willing to bet none of those 10,000 speak Chinese, Farsi, Arabic, or Pasto.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Apparently there will be very few who qualify.

    1) They have to qualify for DACA
    2) They need to have a critical skill

    If they meet those two requirement, the branches have a rule that the potential recruits cannot have illegal family members (parents/siblings, etc)

    How many DACAs that came over illegally could meet that requirements?

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    I couldn't go in the military because of too many traffic tickets in high school. I guess I should have been a Cuban boat person.

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I couldn't go in the military because of too many traffic tickets in high school. I guess I should have been a Cuban boat person.
    That's the other rub, these illegals have already broken the law.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's the other rub, these illegals have already broken the law.
    Well, more accurately, it was likely their parents who did. And if they're willing to serve the country as a member of the armed forces, good for them. I can't see anything in this proposal to object to, absent a reflexive desire to condemn "illegals."

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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I couldn't go in the military because of too many traffic tickets in high school. I guess I should have been a Cuban boat person.
    First, Cubans are not illegal immigrants. IF they make land, they're allowed to stay and pursue residency.
    And oddly, I can't find anything in the Army regs that would prohibit enlistment solely on minor traffic offenses.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's the other rub, these illegals have already broken the law.
    illegal entry is a misdemeanor, and the military has no problem with a small number of misdemeanors (I believe 3 or fewer is no issue) and this misdemeanor of illegal entry was as a minor.
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