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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then I suggest you go back and re-read my post #78, specifically those areas in BOLD black and red.
    I'm going to agree with you. I don't think it's right though, given others are trying to immigrate legally.
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    Re: Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm going to agree with you. I don't think it's right though, given others are trying to immigrate legally.
    I agree with you that in the grand scheme of things those who go about becoming naturalized U.S. citizens should go through the normal application process, but the problem with "the process" is it's severely broken. Still, I hear you - 110% - that just because the system is broken or flawed doesn't mean people should buck it. They should work within the established framework.

    That said, I think it's totally wrong on both sides of the political isle - but moreso of Republicans - to make such high demands or cast this issues aside entirely insisting on their way or no way when truth be told the main reason they (Republicans) won't touch immigration reform is because they don't want to have the finger pointed back at them for having caused the bulk of the problem (which originated in the 1980's under Republican leadership) in the first place. It's a complicated mess now that simply "security the southern border" isn't going to fix.

    The irony here is those Conservative politicians who fall back on their migrant ancestral heritage completely ignore the fact that the system their grandparents used to enter the U.S. no longer exists. More to the point, I'm sure most were classified as refugees and few were immigrants who just decided one day to pack their bags and leave everything behind in their native country for a better way of life in America. You don't just suddenly decide to leave from a place unless you have a good reason to do so. Thus, most were likely fleeing tyranny and oppression.

    I agree that people who knowingly enter this country illegally should go through the legal process, but under the program outlined in the OP, the only people who would be considered for U.S. citizenship would be children who were brought into the country illegally by their parents. You can't hold the children at fault for the actions of their parents, i.e., "sins of the father". Having experienced the "citizenship equation" himself, I'm pretty sure the President of the United States understands this issue deeply and fundamentally. Nonetheless, the law is the law. And if we are to say we are a nation of laws, and we all agree that defending this nation holds the highest honor of patriotism, then why wouldn't we give these kids who know of no other nation as their home, who are willing to take the risk in defense of their "adopted homeland" the opportunity to be legally counted among their would-be comrades in arms?

    If you're willing to fight against tyranny and oppression for a country you weren't born to, have no allegiance to but you've accepted as your home, why wouldn't you grant them their wish to make them citizens provided they serve their new country with honor and distinction?
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 10-09-14 at 02:11 PM.
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