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Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

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South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

The man was pulled over for a seat belt violation. He trooper gets out, asks him for his ID, the man turns to get it and the cop starts barking orders and shoots him for fear he is grabbing a weapon.

Another ridiculous shooting from a cop so scared he shoots because of a perceived threat. He asked for the ID and then assumed the guy was going for a gun. :doh

Luckily though the guy lived and the cop is no longer on the force. I don't think should get 20 years, it just looks like he should really not be a police officer if he is that jumpy. Maybe a couple of years and banned from ever owning a weapon or serving in any kind of authoritative role.

Edit: Also, thank god that cop is a terrible shot or else the guy would be dead with a few slugs in his chest. He only took a single bullet to the pelvis.
 
South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

The man was pulled over for a seat belt violation. He trooper gets out, asks him for his ID, the man turns to get it and the cop starts barking orders and shoots him for fear he is grabbing a weapon.

Another ridiculous shooting from a cop so scared he shoots because of a perceived threat. He asked for the ID and then assumed the guy was going for a gun. :doh

Luckily though the guy lived and the cop is no longer on the force. I don't think should get 20 years, it just looks like he should really not be a police officer if he is that jumpy. Maybe a couple of years and banned from ever owning a weapon or serving in any kind of authoritative role.

Edit: Also, thank god that cop is a terrible shot or else the guy would be dead with a few slugs in his chest. He only took a single bullet to the pelvis.
Yep, that looks like a bad shooting to me.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.
 
So much for the people who say to just do what the cop tells you to do and there won't be a problem.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

Come on, he totally over reacted. He asked for some id and the guy went for it. Maybe he shouldn't be asking for people to reach for things if it makes him jumpy.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

Yes, I would be jumpy. And if and I were both that jumpy and a police officer, I would resign.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

Then by all rights he should NOT be in the field, I am sorry but as an officer there is an assumption of risk that one must accept, to be able to perform the job properly. If one cannot assume it then one should not be in that position. Personally I think officers should not be able to use lethal force unless it is absolutely clear that lethal force was used against them first.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

So what are you saying, we should just let this go and...? There has to be some accountability for these things. If he had killed the guy this would be a disgrace, luckily he is so jumpy he missed almost all of his shots and only shot him in the hip.

We all make mistakes and then have to pay for them, why should police officers be any different? If a surgeon does a fine job on 9 patients then kills the last one from a terrible mistake, do we just let it go? Of course not.

Like others have said, if he is so rattled by what happened earlier he should have already resigned.
 
So much for the people who say to just do what the cop tells you to do and there won't be a problem.

I've read the "you ask how high when the police officer asks you to jump" comments too. They obviously weren't thinking that would still get you shot.

Ironically the policeman was a really bad shot - if he'd been more accurate and brought his man down dead the discussion would be that the "perp" was obviously going for a gun.

Yes, I would be jumpy. And if and I were both that jumpy and a police officer, I would resign.

When you become a danger to the public you serve then you shouldn't be armed or a police officer.
 
Then by all rights he should NOT be in the field, I am sorry but as an officer there is an assumption of risk that one must accept, to be able to perform the job properly. If one cannot assume it then one should not be in that position. Personally I think officers should not be able to use lethal force unless it is absolutely clear that lethal force was used against them first.
I'm not convinced law enforcement should be carrying weapons regularly.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

Well, why didn't you say so in the first place. We should allow him to just shoot whomever he wants then. :roll:
 
I have to wonder why the guy got out of his SUV in the first place, why he didn't empty his hands (was he driving with all that **** in his lap?), and why he rushed back into his SUV for his license (it's not in his pocket? wtf?). Is he just stupid?
 
I have to wonder why the guy got out of his SUV in the first place, why he didn't empty his hands (was he driving with all that **** in his lap?), and why he rushed back into his SUV for his license (it's not in his pocket? wtf?). Is he just stupid?

I just wondered why the guy was shot at four times for doing what the police officer asked. No need to wonder anything else unless you wish to justify the shooting of an unarmed man following police orders.
 
and why he rushed back into his SUV for his license (it's not in his pocket? wtf?). Is he just stupid?

It doesn't matter. Maybe his wallet fell out of his pants, maybe he had just taken it out and had not put it back in his pocket not really thinking about it, or maybe.... Just because you don't have your ID in your pocket at all times makes you stupid. I get ID'd alot and sometimes I don't always put it back in my purse or pocket right away either.
 
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.

Yeah, but if I had been shot before it doesn't mean I can just shoot people around me because I am "a little jumpy". A cop who is " a little jumpy" is a cop with a desk position. You don't get to shoot innocent people unjustly just because you're "a little jumpy", what an extremely stupid and dangerous position.
 
Bottom line is there will never be another white cop black suspect shooting that wont have the racial divide component.
 
Bottom line is there will never be another white cop black suspect shooting that wont have the racial divide component.

So you would be outraged at the unjustified shooting of a white unarmed civilian following police orders by a white policeman but in this case, there's a racial divide element?

Or are you trying to make another point?
 
I just wondered why the guy was shot at four times for doing what the police officer asked. No need to wonder anything else unless you wish to justify the shooting of an unarmed man following police orders.
The first thing I did was watch the video and make my judgment:
Yep, that looks like a bad shooting to me.
....so now all that's left to do in this thread is nit-pick the details and wait for the usual suspects to show up spouting their talking points.

So yeah, I'm just kinda wondering what this guy was thinking. Are gun owners the only people who put any thought into how to behave during a police stop?
 
It doesn't matter. Maybe his wallet fell out of his pants, maybe he had just taken it out and had not put it back in his pocket not really thinking about it, or maybe.... Just because you don't have your ID in your pocket at all times makes you stupid. I get ID'd alot and sometimes I don't always put it back in my purse or pocket right away either.
Ever dive back into your car when a cop asks you for it?

In fact, ever get out of your car when pulled over?
 
South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

The man was pulled over for a seat belt violation. He trooper gets out, asks him for his ID, the man turns to get it and the cop starts barking orders and shoots him for fear he is grabbing a weapon.

Another ridiculous shooting from a cop so scared he shoots because of a perceived threat. He asked for the ID and then assumed the guy was going for a gun. :doh

Luckily though the guy lived and the cop is no longer on the force. I don't think should get 20 years, it just looks like he should really not be a police officer if he is that jumpy. Maybe a couple of years and banned from ever owning a weapon or serving in any kind of authoritative role.

Edit: Also, thank god that cop is a terrible shot or else the guy would be dead with a few slugs in his chest. He only took a single bullet to the pelvis.


This one unlike the other one was clear cut that the cop was in the wrong. the cop should be charged and jailed.

Tim-
 
As long as certain people are around, probably not.

What, are you going to kill all the black people? I know there are a lot of racists among them, but that comment is out of line.
 
Sometimes I don't even have pockets. I have jogging shorts with no pockets. Wallet sits either in the center console, or in the glove box.


Of course, I've also never gotten out of my car when a cop stops, either.

Never the less. You can't tell a guy to do something....and then he does what you told him to do....and then get all upset because he was doing what you told him to do.

That's what wives are for.
 
I have to wonder why the guy got out of his SUV in the first place, why he didn't empty his hands (was he driving with all that **** in his lap?), and why he rushed back into his SUV for his license (it's not in his pocket? wtf?). Is he just stupid?

It might make more sense to watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs

I think he got out of his SUV to go to the store.

The guy shot had moved his car maybe 30 yards around a parking lot and didn't put on his seat belt for the long trip. The cop didn't hit his siren, and it wasn't until he was out of the car that he realized the cop was pulling him over for a safety belt infraction.

And you sound like my late father in law about the wallet. I rarely keep mine in my pocket. Sometimes in the door of the car, sometimes in the seat....
 
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