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Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

APACHERAT said:
Well Jones wasn't a thug. If he was the first words out of his mouth after being shot would have been "You shot me because I'm black." instead of asking "Why did you shoot me ? "
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Sooooo....
If Jones said "You shot me because I'm black." Then he would automatically have defined himself as a "THUG" in APACHERAT's eyes?
Very ,very interesting and very, very telling definition of thug you have revealed here Rat.
From here on out we have a much better picture of what you are and what you mean when you use this word ...
Thank you.
 
APACHERAT said:
It began with left wing political correctness, when police recruiting standards were lowered.

If you look at how many and who with in LE have been fired, convicted, etc, for corruption or unlawful use of force in the past few decades, the majority would have never been hired as law enforcement officers forty years ago.

The ones yelling the most are the ones who caused it.

There's also more to it, twenty of thirty years ago when comparing LE in the west to LE in the east
(Any state that doesn't touch the Mississippi River is the "west") was like comparing apples to oranges. On the east LE was "law enforcement", reactive like (progressive law enforcement) reacting to a crime and that's how libs like it. Most LE were Irish, Italian or Jewish.

In the west LE was proactive, peace officers keeping the peace. Western LE were mostly WASP.

Not true in the west today except for some county Sheriffs departments.
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Un-fuggin-believable...
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, but we haven't been charging cops for say, shooting someone who picks up a pellet gun off the shelf at WalMart and is walking about with it. So I'm surprised that there were even charges brought in the first place. It's proper, police brutality and misuse of power must be swiftly and severely punished. An uncontrolled, military style police force is a much larger threat to all of us than terrorists could ever be. And we launch trillion dollar infinity wars for the terrorist part.
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That was totally messed up. We don't see cops shooting white guys practicing open carry at Walmarts and Chipoltes.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Un-fuggin-believable...
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If you go back and look at California before 1970, most law enforcement agencies in the state minimum requirements was a high school diploma and two years of college or being registered and attending college at the time of applying for a position with a law enforcement agency with in the state.

Because of court order affirmative action, diversity, etc. most law enforcement agencies had to lower their standards to meet the court orders. Today most law enforcement agencies in the state now except a GED with no college units.

What's interesting that reserve officer have to meet higher standards.

California also has POST. https://www.post.ca.gov/
 
rcart76 said:
The only difference between this one and the other is that this was caught on camera. If that camera wasn't there the cop could have easily said that the man launch at him and the case would have got dismiss with no one questioning the cop.
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Exactly. The cop is getting charged because the guy lived to tell. He was even apologizing on video to cop for scaring him...
 
SheWolf said:
That was totally messed up. We don't see cops shooting white guys practicing open carry at Walmarts and Chipoltes.
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I suspect we probably do.. the media just doesn't cover it to nearly the extent so we just do not know about it. I am white, and I have always been told to by my parents and have even read in the media quite a few times to not make sudden moves when stopped by an officer during a traffic stop and realize they don't know what you are doing when you are rummaging around in things, such as glove boxes. Police officers get shot a lot at routine traffic stops, and I am aware of that. I will typically just put my hands out the window when I am stopped.. And I never get out until the cop approaches.

Here are a couple of stories... One was an unarmed white man shot after calls to 911 of a gun being waived around. T he other is a white man shot because he reached back in to his car for a cane during a traffic stop.


'Justice for Dillon Taylor' sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer - Washington Times

70-year-old man shot for picking up cane during traffic stop | Police State USA
 
buck said:
I suspect we probably do.. the media just doesn't cover it to nearly the extent so we just do not know about it. I am white, and I have always been told to by my parents and have even read in the media quite a few times to not make sudden moves when stopped by an officer during a traffic stop and realize they don't know what you are doing when you are rummaging around in things, such as glove boxes. Police officers get shot a lot at routine traffic stops, and I am aware of that. I will typically just put my hands out the window when I am stopped.. And I never get out until the cop approaches.

Here are a couple of stories... One was an unarmed white man shot after calls to 911 of a gun being waived around. T he other is a white man shot because he reached back in to his car for a cane during a traffic stop.


'Justice for Dillon Taylor' sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer - Washington Times

70-year-old man shot for picking up cane during traffic stop | Police State USA
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IMO anyone open carrying that gets hassled (it's illegal for cops to do so) for open carrying will make a stink about it. Report it, go to the dept, even the media.

If open carry is legal, then there needs to be probable cause to harrass anyone doing so. Now, citizens that see it and are unaware of the law or are uncomfortable report this anyway....and the cops may need to come check it out because they dont know the circumstances until they arrive, but they still are not allowed to harrass the individual.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.
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If he is "jumpy" what is doing on solo patrol? If a police officer is not psychologically stable enough to perform his or her duties they should not be on the active duty. I suggest this asshole wasn't jumpy at all, but high on having used his weapon in combat, a rare thing for a cop, and got a medal.

You know, the attitude is what's wrong here. The whole bust was a procedural nightmare, he did not properly instruct the suspect, told him to "get" his license when he should have asked if he had it on him or where it was then instructed him how to go about getting it without being shot.

That attitude is why I never travel in the US anymore. I feel a lot safer in Cuba
 
Yeah, average people don't think to warn cops of their every move. I know I never have. I am surprised people are sticking up for the cop and attacking the guy for not giving notice he was going for his ID before moving. That shouldn't cost anybody their life, and if the cop was that damned scared of the guy, he wouldn't have trusted him to get into his car to begin with. The cop would have been more comfortable cuffing the guy or having his lay on the ground with his hands spread while the cop got his ID for him.



Lursa said:
I watched it too. It looked like the guy was respectful. The cop asked for ID and the guy complied immediately. I saw no overt signs for alarm or deception at all when I viewed it.

Are cops so unused to compliance that they are suspicious of that too? Reacting when people actually do as they ask?
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So it's the fault of letting more black people on the force... lolwtf

APACHERAT said:
If you go back and look at California before 1970, most law enforcement agencies in the state minimum requirements was a high school diploma and two years of college or being registered and attending college at the time of applying for a position with a law enforcement agency with in the state.

Because of court order affirmative action, diversity, etc. most law enforcement agencies had to lower their standards to meet the court orders. Today most law enforcement agencies in the state now except a GED with no college units.

What's interesting that reserve officer have to meet higher standards.

California also has POST. https://www.post.ca.gov/
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Jerry said:
I have to wonder why the guy got out of his SUV in the first place, why he didn't empty his hands (was he driving with all that **** in his lap?), and why he rushed back into his SUV for his license (it's not in his pocket? wtf?). Is he just stupid?
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A lot of people keep their license on their dashboard or visor if they're the type that doesn't take their wallet with them everywhere they go.
 
Verax said:
Perhaps you should have investigated the context in which my reply was made. I was responding to CRUE CAB.

Did you even watch the video and notice that the cop "pulled him over" after the guy was out of his vehicle and about to go into the establishment.

Please do not whine about race, its very annoying and has no relevance.
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Went back and reviewed, you're right, my apologies.
 
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