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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Dude... they're not employed to kill people, that's the military, and even then, there are strict rules of engagement. Police going willy nilly on American civilians should be condemned harshly and often. Imagine if that was a 16 year old white girl getting lit the **** up. Would you still be defending the police officer?
    Short term memory lost ?

    Don't you remember back in 2009 or was it 2010 that there were some pantie waist types proposing a medal for our soldiers for not shooting the enemy ?

    And you don't want to go there about Obama's "strict rules of engagement" that he forced upon our troops in Afghanistan that favors the enemy and caused our troops to bleed and die, do you ?

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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Guess you missed the part were he was given the medal of valor from his department a year ago.
    Bet if you had been shot at before, you would be alittle jumpy too.
    So him being no longer save to fulfill his duty should risk someone else's life? No justification for shooting an unarmed man. I could maybe with difficulty understand shot 1 but the rest is simply indefensible and illegal.
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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Just because I ask questions doesn't mean I'm trying to justify bad behavior. I ask questions for a living, it's what I do.

    If I didn't ask, I wouldn't have found out that the guy got out of his truck....to go into a store. He didn't even know a cop wanted to pull him over when he got out of his truck.

    Knowing why he got out of his truck helps me understand the cop's state of mind, which helps me understand why the cop fired. If the guy got out of his truck because there was an argument already underway when the video clip started, that's a while different picture. But, he was just going into a store, and that's important to know.
    When you're being pulled over by law enforcement the "international sign" that you're not going to shoot a cop is to sit in the driver seat with both hands on the steering wheel.

    This has been the SOP for over five decades now and there's always someone who didn't get the message.

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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    When you're being pulled over by law enforcement the "international sign" that you're not going to shoot a cop is to sit in the driver seat with both hands on the steering wheel.

    This has been the SOP for over five decades now and there's always someone who didn't get the message.
    Yes, but cops should not be allowed to just be able to shoot people because whatever. They are under rules, regulations, guidelines, and laws the same as everyone else and reckless endangerment and attempted murder are the same thing regardless of whether or not you wear the badge.
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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but cops should not be allowed to just be able to shoot people because whatever. They are under rules, regulations, guidelines, and laws the same as everyone else and reckless endangerment and attempted murder are the same thing regardless of whether or not you wear the badge.
    Care to post those "rules, regulations, guidelines, and laws."

    If the officer just like any civilian, including you Ikari was in fear of his life, he or she has the right to use deadly force.

    How many law enforcement officers do you think have been gun down when just pulling over a car for a minor infraction like a burned out tail light ?

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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Care to post those "rules, regulations, guidelines, and laws."

    If the officer just like any civilian, including you Ikari was in fear of his life, he or she has the right to use deadly force.

    How many law enforcement officers do you think have been gun down when just pulling over a car for a minor infraction like a burned out tail light ?
    That is not cause to shoot unarmed, innocent civilians. The fact that you would excuse government shootings of innocents is a bit off. The government needs to be under additional constraints since it wields the power and sovereignty of the People. Any abuse or misuse of that must be punished swiftly and severely.The government cannot be allowed to execute innocent civilians just because they were feeling "jumpy" that day. This ain't supposed to be commie China.
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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So much for the people who say to just do what the cop tells you to do and there won't be a problem.
    It was a super bad shooting, but for myself I'd still tell the cop, "the license is in the glove compartment." I've read too many times that just reaching for your glove compartment makes cops kinda jumpy.

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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    When you're being pulled over by law enforcement the "international sign" that you're not going to shoot a cop is to sit in the driver seat with both hands on the steering wheel.

    This has been the SOP for over five decades now and there's always someone who didn't get the message.
    Apache, the cop rolled up on this guy without sirens as the guy was getting out of his car to go into the gas station, so he was not in the position to be sitting in the driver seat. Then the first thing the cop then said was to see his license so he reached back in to get it when the cop fired. There are no excuses.
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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Apache, the cop rolled up on this guy without sirens as the guy was getting out of his car to go into the gas station, so he was not in the position to be sitting in the driver seat. Then the first thing the cop then said was to see his license so he reached back in to get it when the cop fired. There are no excuses.
    You must have seen a different video. The one I watched four times was just a little under a minute long and the victim was already out of his vehicle when the video starts. So I'm going by what I assume everyone else watched.

    This is why I'm questioning why was this guy outside of his car ?

    The video doesn't show when the officer drew is service pistol from his holster. I have to assume as soon as the victim without telling the officer that his license was inside the car but quickly and I mean quickly enter into his car going for something.

    If there's another video showing when the officer pulled over the car and when the victim exited his car, please post a link.

    Was it a bad shooting ? Yes.

    Did the officer violate his departments shooting policies ? I have no idea because every law enforcement agency has different policies.

    Is the DA just appeasing the black community by filing charges so quickly so Al Sharpton will stay in Washington so he can help Obama pick the new Attorney General ? Probably.

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    Re: Video shows trooper shooting unarmed man, South Carolina police say

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If there's another video showing when the officer pulled over the car and when the victim exited his car, please post a link.
    I posted this earlier:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs

    Note that the police officer never hit the siren, and since the 'stop' was for a safety belt infraction, committed while moving his car about 30 yards in a parking lot, no reason for the guy to assume he's being pulled over until he's spoken to already outside his vehicle.

    Actually, just watched it again, and it's not clear the car that was originally in front of the police car is the same one pulled over. At any rate, the guy didn't hit the siren. No reason for the driver to assume he was being stopped.
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