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Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

Fearandloathing said:
Canada's treatment of First Nations is pretty ugly, especially the first three quarters of the 20th century. There is huge sensitivity to that here. Also, Indians make up about 30% of this areas population, they resent being called "east Indian" as my friend Bondhar says "I know of no one born in east India."

You simply don't use terms like that here.
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Good luck with this. I've had this argument several times here and all I can say is, the perception of these things is different in the US than Canada.
 
Grand Mal said:
Good luck with this. I've had this argument several times here and all I can say is, the perception of these things is different in the US than Canada.
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Are you still trying to say that Canada is different somehow from the US? Good grief. You're practically the 51st state.
 
I will say this though... as a Cowboys fan, if they actually do change the Redskins' name, that would suck because the underlying "cowboys vs indians" theme makes the rivalry between the two teams that much more fun.

Who didn't play Cowboys vs Indians as a kid?
 
Peter Grimm said:
I travel to Oklahoma all the time, so I have a lot of friends who are Indians, and I don't know a single one of them who is "offended" by the Washington Redskins.

This is purely a liberal/political ploy. .
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So you speak for all Native Americans then because you know a few from one tribe. Makes perfect sense.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Are you still trying to say that Canada is different somehow from the US? Good grief. You're practically the 51st state.
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Good grief? Can't say I've ever heard anyone say that out loud. Have you?
Canada looked like the 51st state in '51 but since then the US looks like part of it becoming the 32nd state of Mexico and the rest becoming the first sovereign country to put itself up for adoption.
 
Hard Truth said:
How dare they complain about the offensive name we gave them! They should be grateful! Let's insult them.

New name ideas for the team: The Wops, The Micks, The Limeys, the Niggers, the Honkies, The Frogs, the Chinks, The Nips, the Hebes, the Fags, the Dykes, the Breeders...

No one will object to any of those names unlike those oversensitive Injuns.
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Very dramatic post, but irrelevant. Those "names" you came up with are pejoratives and none of them refer to a skin color.

And who is the "they" you refer to? Is it all Native Americans, including the ones who use "Redskins" for their own schools' sports teams?
 
Top Cat said:
Then don't bother posting about it. Some people do care.
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You don't tell me what do to. The only people that care are offended by everything else in the world as well their opinion matters little to me,
and since i am american indian or at least part enough to get my card if i wanted. i don't see what the issue is.

the owner isn't going to change the name. there is no legal manner or court ruling that could make him change the name.
someone being offended isn't enough of a legal standing to change the name of a brand.
 
This tribal chief and tribal are more than welcome to boycott Fedex. Considering they are a minority view amongst native americans, and their tribe likely accounts for very little actual business for Fedex, I imagine it'll have little to no impact other than giving the media whose heavily invested in biasedly presenting this issue without an ounce of objectivity to swarm onto the name change issue once again.
 
Good luck on their protest, I predict in 6 months they will be back to using Fed-Ex services without the Redskins name changing.
 
ecofarm said:
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If they had the means they would have done the same. An example of Native American mismanagement of the environment:

Bison roaming the plains shoulder to shoulder is not natural. NAs had engaged in allowing the population of bison to grow to an absurd level. They had taken a wild population and basically turned it into a giant exploding herd, having eliminated all other predators.

The bison-covered plains often portrayed as the natural landscape of the West was, in fact, a population explosion going unchecked. With the death of a majority of NAs, via European disease, the semi-domesticated (on a large scale) bison were left to expand to deforesting and plain destroying proportions.

Presumably, given the means (and population density), NAs would have been no more concerned with the environment than anyone else.
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Mob grazing is environmentally sound
 
tres borrachos said:
Are all Native Americans offended by the name?
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I haven't asked them. I'm not the one presuming to know. Let's assume that some are, others not. What difference does that make? (I'm sure you can find some African Americans that are not offended by the N word, does that make it any less offensive?)
 
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Top Cat said:
I haven't asked them. I'm not the one presuming to know. Let's assume that some are, others not. What difference does that make? (I'm sure you can find some African Americans that are not offended by the N word, does that make it any less offensive?)
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Your point is incomplete. Does it matter what percentage of a given population considers it offensive? If not, then it only takes one person to declare something offensive. If so, at what percentage does something become offensive enough to warrant change? 5%? 10%? 25%? 50%+?
 
radcen said:
Your point is incomplete. Does it matter what percentage of a given population considers it offensive? If not, then it only takes one person to declare something offensive. If so, at what percentage does something become offensive enough to warrant change? 5%? 10%? 25%? 50%+?
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Oh I don't know, how about 2/3?

A recent study by the California State University, San Bernadino reports 67% of Native Americans find the Washington Redskins name and imagery racist.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/native-americans-offended-by-racial-slur#397bmd4
 
This issue is a joke. I'm offended that this offends a/some Indians. Get a set of balls & shut your fuc*#+g mouths. What happened to pride. This chief, where are the younger Indians to boot this chief to the curb. Shoulda put much more the small pox in them blankets.
 
radcen said:
So, if there were another study which found less than 2/3 you would be fine with keeping the name. Right?

Of course you'd probably declare the other study not credible, but that's a given.
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No, he'd simply change his criteria. If the studies indicated that 50% of Native Americans found it offensive, he'd say 50% was required. If it was 10% who found it offensive, he'd say the limit was 10%. He's just picking his numbers based on his desire to change the name.
 
Man, some of the right-wingers are downright spiteful on this issue.
 
radcen said:
So, if there were another study which found less than 2/3 you would be fine with keeping the name. Right?

Of course you'd probably declare the other study not credible, but that's a given.
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So you are suggesting the study wasn't credible? Link?
 
Cephus said:
No, he'd simply change his criteria. If the studies indicated that 50% of Native Americans found it offensive, he'd say 50% was required. If it was 10% who found it offensive, he'd say the limit was 10%. He's just picking his numbers based on his desire to change the name.
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I believe you are correct.
 
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