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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no. that i don't give a **** about sportsball.
    I didn't say you didn't, I said I didn't. I didn't mention you at all.

    that you can't call a team the Kansas City Darkies and pretend to be surprised when people get pissed off enough that they decide to boycott your sponsors. and that you yourself can't offhandedly insult and dismiss an entire culture and not expect to get called on it.
    Couldn't care less. If you want to call a team the Washington Niggers, knock yourself out. Or the Cincinnati Honkeys or the Florida Chinks. Feel free. The market will sort it out.
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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

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    Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name - CNN.com

    Very interesting. Go after corporate sponsors.
    going after sponsors is a way to affect real change given that politics has become so corrupt with money

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I didn't say you didn't, I said I didn't. I didn't mention you at all.
    i was explaining to you that i agree that we both give zero ****s about sportsball.

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    Couldn't care less. If you want to call a team the Washington Niggers, knock yourself out. Or the Cincinnati Honkeys or the Florida Chinks. Feel free. The market will sort it out.
    irrelevant. your blanket dismissal of native American culture is still repugnant. yeah, they lost the arms race. that doesn't prove that their ten thousand plus year old culture should be reduced to some cynical comment about dancing around campfires.

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i was explaining to you that i agree that we both give zero ****s about sportsball.
    Ah, sorry. So absolutely zero ****s are given this day. Gotcha.

    irrelevant. your blanket dismissal of native American culture is still repugnant. yeah, they lost the arms race. that doesn't prove that their ten thousand plus year old culture should be reduced to some cynical comment about dancing around campfires.
    I don't really care if you like it or not. You're welcome to your opinion, I'm welcome to mine. Most cultures die, we should let them die and move on. Clinging to the past does no one any good.
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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Ah, sorry. So absolutely zero ****s are given this day. Gotcha.



    I don't really care if you like it or not. You're welcome to your opinion, I'm welcome to mine. Most cultures die, we should let them die and move on. Clinging to the past does no one any good.
    i'm not native American (that i know of,) but i think there's something good about revering one's ancestors. that's a part of Chinese / Asian culture that i really like.

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name - CNN.com

    Very interesting. Go after corporate sponsors.
    It's funny. When the controversy over the name started, the people defending the name argued that Native Americans were fine with it. Now, when a story comes out about a Native American that isn't fine with it, the people defending the name accuse him of being stupid and a failure. LOL. Bigots never change. When confronted with new information, they adjust their excuses instead of adjusting their perspective, they adjust their excuses.

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i was explaining to you that i agree that we both give zero ****s about sportsball.



    irrelevant. your blanket dismissal of native American culture is still repugnant. yeah, they lost the arms race. that doesn't prove that their ten thousand plus year old culture should be reduced to some cynical comment about dancing around campfires.
    Tell me what is it, other than dancing around campfires, that this ten thousand year old culture has brought us? The truth is, they haven't evolved socially or economically in 10,000 years. Not sure why you think there is some divine virtue in stagnation. The only thing more absurd than Indians clinging to a reservation might be the Amish.

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm not native American (that i know of,) but i think there's something good about revering one's ancestors. that's a part of Chinese / Asian culture that i really like.
    Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. If someone wants to revere their ancestors, they're welcome to do so. If that reverence gets in the way of living their lives independently, that's another matter.
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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's funny. When the controversy over the name started, the people defending the name argued that Native Americans were fine with it. Now, when a story comes out about a Native American that isn't fine with it, the people defending the name accuse him of being stupid and a failure. LOL. Bigots never change. When confronted with new information, they adjust their excuses instead of adjusting their perspective, they adjust their excuses.
    A native American isn't fine with it. Who gives a crap what Chief Featherbrain thinks about anything? The truth is, you can find someone in this country who will be offended by something. We don't all have to change to accommodate the insane.

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    Re: Tribal chief: No FedEx until Redskins change team name

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, what's sad are people who cling to failed cultures and spend their lives rotting away on a chunk of useless land while the rest of the world passes them by. Anyone on the reservation can get up, go to the big city, get an education, get a good job and live a good life. Anyone who does not, who refuses to get off that chunk of land because of their ridiculous dead culture, is an idiot.
    Spoken like a white man whose racial and ethnic identity is affirmed by the dominant culture and hasn't taken the time to educate himself on the effects that denying one's heritage has on people whose racial and ethnic identities are not affirmed by the culture. Hell, you're racial identity is probably so normative that you probably don't even think you HAVE a racial identity.

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