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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    got it
    you just made that **** up

    just as i thought

    ohhh, I see.... You would have people violate medical privacy just to make a minor point on a political forum web site, to complete strangers...

    Well, at least we now know the type of person we are sharing the forums with.... Thanks.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    However your post was still racist. "Darkie" is a term not in much use since the segregation era.
    Was it? Or should I have rather used "Uncle Tom", "Nigga" or plain old Black Man? Which noun or adjective would have sufficed? And would using any of them alter the truth of the matter....that the path to Justice Clearance Thomas' nomination started in the Reagan era for two purposes:

    1) to eventually get another Conservative Republican on the bench; and,

    2) to get another Black man in a high position within the three branches of government and the easiest place to do that was through the Supreme Court.

    Fact is, the GOP (Reagan Administration) knew in advance they'd have an opportunity to nominate another SC Justice and wanted to clear the way for a Black attorney to secure the nomination. They were very much aware that Thurgood Marshall was planning on retiring; they just didn't know precisely when. So, to show they had a "Big Tent" but remaining true to nominating a Conservative to the bench, they appointment Clearance Thomas to a few key positions within Reagan's Cabinet (lower level, of course) in the hopes that they'd eventually get their chance to nominate him to the SC. But because Thurgood didn't retire until 1991, Reagan didn't get to be that President who reached across the racial demographic line from within. (And if you paid any attention to the social divide during the Reagan years, you'd know he wasn't well liked among many Blacks at the time. "Reaganomics" anyone?) But...

    GH Bush knew that Clearance was "their guy", next in line for the judiciary. So, when the time came Thomas was nominated. Democrats were right to question his character and his ideology because of how Thomas viewed issues along the lines of race, sex and class. And he's largely legislated - not ruled - that way from Day-1. But my broader point here is that there was an objective to brining Clearance Thomas in during the Reagan years.

    The only problem I have with Justice Clearance Thomas is he's no Thurgood Marshall, a Black Supreme Court Justice who did more to bring fairness into the America social fabric by followed the letter of the law and not legislating from the bench. But in all fairness, I take that same position with any Supreme Court Justice who legislates from the bench no matter their Party affiliation. It's probably why I applauded Justice Robert when he gave the final vote on ObamaCare. While I clearly saw that he did some serious verbal gymnastics with his legal opinion, he ultimately came back to the law (Re: "IRC") to make his ruling.
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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Covering Obama's ass is a tough job.
    The same reason Jay Carney quit. Shovelling bull**** can wear a person down after so long.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Unfortunately, Holder was a hard core partisan which explains how his legacy is viewed by other partisans. To me he was Obama's AG not mine.
    I wish there weren't reason to feel this way, but there is. I don't really think of Holder so much as partisan, though, as I think of him as racially biased and willing to ignore the law when it suits his agenda.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Was it? Or should I have rather used "Uncle Tom", "Nigga" or plain old Black Man? Which noun or adjective would have sufficed?
    How about none of the above.


    And would using any of them alter the truth of the matter....that the path to Justice Clearance Thomas' nomination started in the Reagan era for two purposes:

    1) to eventually get another Conservative Republican on the bench; and,

    2) to get another Black man in a high position within the three branches of government and the easiest place to do that was through the Supreme Court.
    Fact is, the GOP (Reagan Administration) knew in advance they'd have an opportunity to nominate another SC Justice and wanted to clear the way for a Black attorney to secure the nomination. They were very much aware that Thurgood Marshall was planning on retiring; they just didn't know precisely when. So, to show they had a "Big Tent" but remaining true to nominating a Conservative to the bench, they appointment Clearance Thomas to a few key positions within Reagan's Cabinet (lower level, of course) in the hopes that they'd eventually get their chance to nominate him to the SC. But because Thurgood didn't retire until 1991, Reagan didn't get to be that President who reached across the racial demographic line from within.
    Why can't you just accept that HW Bush nominated an African American conservative to the court and leave it at that? Why suggest conspiracies?

    (And if you paid any attention to the social divide during the Reagan years, you'd know he wasn't well liked among many Blacks at the time. "Reaganomics" anyone?) But...
    Now you are suggesting that Reagan policies were detrimental to blacks? How so?

    GH Bush knew that Clearance was "their guy", next in line for the judiciary. So, when the time came Thomas was nominated. Democrats were right to question his character and his ideology because of how Thomas viewed issues along the lines of race, sex and class. And he's largely legislated - not ruled - that way from Day-1. But my broader point here is that there was an objective to brining Clearance Thomas in during the Reagan years.
    What you are attempting to say is that Clarence Thomas did not stay on the democrat party plantation. He had the nerve to choose conservative policy over liberalism. And he did not legislate from the bench. He ruled according to the US constitution.

    The only problem I have with Justice Clearance Thomas is he's no Thurgood Marshall, a Black Supreme Court Justice who did more to bring fairness into the America social fabric by followed the letter of the law and not legislating from the bench. But in all fairness, I take that same position with any Supreme Court Justice who legislates from the bench no matter their Party affiliation. It's probably why I applauded Justice Robert when he gave the final vote on ObamaCare. While I clearly saw that he did some serious verbal gymnastics with his legal opinion, he ultimately came back to the law (Re: "IRC") to make his ruling.
    No...Roberts did not come back to the law. He did what you just accused Thomas of doing. He legislated from the bench. His ruling in effect violated the 10th Amendment to the US constitution. He did employ verbal gymnastics in an attempt to justify his decision....calling it a tax instead of a penalty...despite the fact that the bill was not crafted that way and the Obama Administration in their attempts to defend the bill claimed over and over and over again that it was not a tax. Considering the fact that his conservative colleagues on the court claimed that he was against obamacare nearly until the vote came up......I kind of wonder what kind of detrimental information the administration had on Roberts to black mail him into changing his mind.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Neither Holder nor Lerner will ever see the inside of a jail. My guess is that they are both going to get thrown under the bus and then pardoned, just to keep them quiet about the whole truth. Look for an investigation coming during the last two years of Pres. Obama's term where the Reps. will be repeatedly vilified for a carrying out a witch hunt and then a sudden confession to minimal actions, followed by a sentencing, followed by a pardon. The worst of these crimes will get swept under the rug in exchange for the Reps. getting to be the heroes in this with no further condemnation from the WH.
    Im hoping the facts speak for themselves, but then again-Obama was elected twice and if the constant parade of scandals had been known just a few months before they started coming out-he'd have lost the election. These guys are more Nixonian than Nixon.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    However your post was still racist. "Darkie" is a term not in much use since the segregation era. To the point, I don't have a problem with Reagan appointing an African American to a post partially to add ethnic diversity...as long as the appointee is qualified. When HW Bush nominated him to the US Supreme Court, I did find the attack on Clarence Thomas by the left to be quite repugnant. They pulled out all stops. It was not so much that Thomas was a conservative nominee. It was that he was an African American conservative. The left sees conservative minorities as a threat. They feel that they own minorities and get quite frightened of a high profile minority conservative perhaps drawing minority followers to the conservative side.
    Agreed. Yesterday, in liberal southern california I was behind a car with a Ben Carson sticker. I like the guy and had to smile about seeing that here of all places. He has done surgery locally and many docs I work with speak very highly of him, and have for decades from what they say, Im stoked.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Agreed. Yesterday, in liberal southern california I was behind a car with a Ben Carson sticker. I like the guy and had to smile about seeing that here of all places. He has done surgery locally and many docs I work with speak very highly of him, and have for decades from what they say, Im stoked.
    I am as well. The liberals are in a quandary. They cannot do a Sarah Palin on him. They know he is intelligent. They cannot attack him on policy...so they are attempting to make him out as a religious nut. If he runs, that will backfire big time.

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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    http://www.redstate.com/diary/candic...f-eric-holder/

    While I know that it is a red source, you are free to google each case to find their legitimacy.
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    Re: Eric Holder To Step Down As Attorney General

    What difference does it make?

    Is anyone on here naive enough to think that whomever replaces him won't be chosen because they agree to do exactly what Obama (a lawyer) tells him/her to do?

    Little will change.

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