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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I'm a lot more critical of the officer. It's suppose to be their job to assess the situation, not blindly follow a caller's statements. At no point did they give the man, who is not threatening anyone and who did not point the weapon at them, reasonable opportunity to respond.

    So easy for people like you that live warm cozy lives to criticize the police in situations like these. Sorry, but if I'm in a profession where my life is in danger every second, and some dude has a gun in a place that every person on Earth knows you shouldn't be having one, I err on the side of protecting my life and innocent people. Police officers aren't there nor is it their job to practice psychological evaluations. They are there to protect all of us, and themselves from dangerous people. This idiot brought a GUN into a public place and was behaving in a manner that suggests he was working up his courage to do something that unbeknownst to the police, could have been some mass shooting for whatever reason. I chalk this up to one less idiot that can breed.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What I can tell is not going on is this man is not roaming the store like he's in a paint-ball arena, pointing the rifle at people. I would even go so far as to say he did not point the rifle at those 2 children.

    He's still an idiot for walking around with a rifle in his hand, but that doesn't excuse the caller.
    its hard to tell since he was standing perpendicular to the kids, you can only really see the gun when he has it pointed down the back aisle. The mom gets her kids and moves away when she sees him so she saw something wasnt right.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So easy for people like you that live warm cozy lives to criticize the police in situations like these. Sorry, but if I'm in a profession where my life is in danger every second, and some dude has a gun in a place that every person on Earth knows you shouldn't be having one, I err on the side of protecting my life and innocent people. Police officers aren't there nor is it their job to practice psychological evaluations. They are there to protect all of us, and themselves from dangerous people. This idiot brought a GUN into a public place and was behaving in a manner that suggests he was working up his courage to do something that unbeknownst to the police, could have been some mass shooting for whatever reason. I chalk this up to one less idiot that can breed.

    Bye bye..

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    1 - Ohio is an open carry state. Even if he carried a load gun into the store, that legal and he shouldn't be shot for it.
    2 - The store SELLS the item in question.
    3 - He was not threatening anyone.
    4 - At Crawford never pointed the item at the police.
    5 - The man was never a threat.

    So basically, all of your points are straight up nonsense.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    1 - Ohio is an open carry state. Even if he carried a load gun into the store, that legal and he shouldn't be shot for it.
    2 - The store SELLS the item in question.
    3 - He was not threatening anyone.
    4 - At Crawford never pointed the item at the police.
    5 - The man was never a threat.

    So basically, all of your points are straight up nonsense.
    Yeah nonsense... Just like the people against torture, you folks crack me up. Actually you're very scary in a sad sort of way! You're all super duper proud of your stances, yet with the coin flipped you wouldn't hesitate to do whatever it took to prevent harm from coming to you or your own families. And if you weren't willing to protect your family based on your ideology, then you're a danger to them, and yourself! Cops don't have the benefit of doubt, especially in today's world where terrorists lurk in every city, cops being gunned down in their squad cars, mass shootings almost monthly.. Yeah, sure, the cop should have said, hey there fella, you ok, can you put the rifle away so we can talk..


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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Yeah nonsense... Just like the people against torture, you folks crack me up. Actually you're very scary in a sad sort of way! You're all super duper proud of your stances, yet with the coin flipped you wouldn't hesitate to do whatever it took to prevent harm from coming to you or your own families. And if you weren't willing to protect your family based on your ideology, then you're a danger to them, and yourself! Cops don't have the benefit of doubt, especially in today's world where terrorists lurk in every city, cops being gunned down in their squad cars, mass shootings almost monthly.. Yeah, sure, the cop should have said, hey there fella, you ok, can you put the rifle away so we can talk..


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    Yeah... that's exactly what the cop should have said as the item was never pointed in their direction. There was NO threat. WTF are you even talking about? Are you saying he was a threat when at no time did he point the item at the officers? I could understand it if the man was aggressive or made a motion to raise the item in their direction, but NONE of that happened.

    So is your point is...
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    should be shot. Is that correct?

    Oh... and she's a idiot.
    Last edited by Tettsuo; 09-25-14 at 02:17 PM.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    The mom gets her kids and moves away when she sees him so she saw something wasnt right.
    The little girl stood for a second or two looking at the fish after the mother started to turn the cart around to leave. I as a mother, if I was concerned about a situation, I would not leave my daughter behind like that. I can't speak for all mothers but if she was worried about the guy, she didn't seem to mind leaving her daughter behind to get shot first. I am very protective though and put my daughter over myself and would get between any suspicious behavior and my daughter while hustling her away.


    Edit: Also if you watch the camera view on the left side when they leave the aisle she doesn't even look back to see if her daughter follows. She starts looking over to her right with the girl lagging behind. Then they stop and talk for a second or two and head back in front of that aisle. Not the actions of someone who thought something wasn't right.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Yeah... that's exactly what the cop should have said as the item was never pointed in their direction. There was NO threat. WTF are you even talking about? Are you saying he was a threat when at no time did he point the item at the officers? I could understand it if the man was aggressive or made a motion to raise the item in their direction, but NONE of that happened.

    So is your point is...
    open+carry.jpg

    should be shot. Is that correct?

    Oh... and she's a idiot.

    That's a holstered weapon, and a lot different than one being held in your hands. The guy was a fool, and now he is no longer!

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    And if it were a real rifle, does it warrant automatic execution?
    You do know there were other circumstances?

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    The little girl stood for a second or two looking at the fish after the mother started to turn the cart around to leave. I as a mother, if I was concerned about a situation, I would not leave my daughter behind like that. I can't speak for all mothers but if she was worried about the guy, she didn't seem to mind leaving her daughter behind to get shot first. I am very protective though and put my daughter over myself and would get between any suspicious behavior and my daughter while hustling her away.


    Edit: Also if you watch the camera view on the left side when they leave the aisle she doesn't even look back to see if her daughter follows. She starts looking over to her right with the girl lagging behind. Then they stop and talk for a second or two and head back in front of that aisle. Not the actions of someone who thought something wasn't right.
    If you look at the camera on the left she clearly makes an effort to go to the opposite side of the stack base when coming back in the door. She didnt look like she thought she was in danger but it doesnt look like normal customer movement to me.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    That's a holstered weapon, and a lot different than one being held in your hands. The guy was a fool, and now he is no longer!

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    That's a real weapon... not the toy the guy was carrying.
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