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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have watched it a number of times, and do not see what you are seeing. I saw something very different. I saw the barrel begin to rise up and that was when the first shots were fired. That is what prompted the shooting.
    Watch the video a few more times. While doing so, pause it and note the time and what is happening. Pay close attention to where the gun barrel is pointing.

    As I noted:
    At 8:26;53, he swings the barrel up. By 8:26:55 it is pointed straight down. At 8:26:55:10 the barrel has swung so that it's pointing *behind him*
    You can time it so that you hit Pause right at 8:26:53 and you will see that is when he swings the gun barrel up. At that time, the cops can not be heard yet and he hasn't been shot yet.

    Then hit Play and watch the barrel swing back down and hit Pause when the gun barrel is pointed straight down. The time will be 8:26:55

    Then hit Play again and watch the barrel continue swinging back until it is pointing behind him (and towards the floor)

    Then the cop yells, the barrel swings to be pointing straight down and Crawford is shot and falls.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have watched it a number of times, and do not see what you are seeing. I saw something very different. I saw the barrel begin to rise up and that was when the first shots were fired. That is what prompted the shooting.
    Really? You honestly believe that simply lifting the barrel, which is still not pointed at the police, was reason enough to kill?

    If this is true, I have no reason to respond to your post regarding this topic anymore. You must live in constant fear of every minor movement made by people around you.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Really? You honestly believe that simply lifting the barrel, which is still not pointed at the police, was reason enough to kill?

    If this is true, I have no reason to respond to your post regarding this topic anymore. You must live in constant fear of every minor movement made by people around you.
    It was this with the other information, even if false, that the police had which led to the outcome. It wasn't this movement alone that led to it.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't know that.
    Witness says he was told multiple times to drop the weapon. Its just no on the news. The 911 caller says he was told. So, what else do you want?

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Really? You honestly believe that simply lifting the barrel, which is still not pointed at the police, was reason enough to kill?

    If this is true, I have no reason to respond to your post regarding this topic anymore. You must live in constant fear of every minor movement made by people around you.
    Raise a weapon in my direction. You will be met with every bit of firepower I possess.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Really? You honestly believe that simply lifting the barrel, which is still not pointed at the police, was reason enough to kill?

    If this is true, I have no reason to respond to your post regarding this topic anymore. You must live in constant fear of every minor movement made by people around you.
    If you watch the video clearly (see my earlier posts for times to look for) you will see that the gun barrel was being *lowered*, not raised, at the time he was shot.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Witness says he was told multiple times to drop the weapon. Its just no on the news. The 911 caller says he was told. So, what else do you want?
    C'mon man, you're messing up the, "shopping while black" talking points.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you watch the video clearly (see my earlier posts for times to look for) you will see that the gun barrel was being *lowered*, not raised, at the time he was shot.
    Put it down means put it down. Period. Anything short of that is still a threat.

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Witness says he was told multiple times to drop the weapon. Its just no on the news. The 911 caller says he was told. So, what else do you want?
    The same 911 caller who repeatedly lied about things. Totally credible.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    I guess non threatening people carrying a weapon is illegal and punishable by instant death now in america. Walmart and the cops should be paying this family enough money to live without a father figure for life. Its insane that the cops can just say, "oops" and get away with it. If he never pointed the weapon at cops and was never given a chance to "surrender" then how was this killing justified exactly??? Why cant they just admit the cop was scared and fired first with questions later. Not suitable for high stress duties.

    Zero shots fired by the victim, before and after police arrived. Zero aggression showed by the victim. Never given the chance to "surrender". Executed without a jury.

    And yet the police say he refused to put down the weapon.... Hrmmmmm. Cover your own arse?
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