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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

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    While I was away from the thread, audio was obtained covering the entire approach?
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

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    Yes..
    I wonder why they waited until close range to yell "drop it".

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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

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    For me, 2 seconds would be plenty. By the second second, the baby would be on the ground.
    Easy to say...bet you not nearly as easy to do.

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    But seriously, we don't know if that was the only "drop it" said/yelled by the cops.
    Actually we do. Its right there in the video.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Easy to say...bet you not nearly as easy to do.
    Point being, it's strange for someone to have confusion with cops pointing guns and barking commands. I've explained my speculation regarding this, specifically that the man was not of full capacity (naturally or otherwise) and perhaps he thought he was being arrested for shoplifting instead of understanding the cops were in fear of life.

    Actually we do. Its right there in the video.
    I was under the impression that the video did not include audio and did not include the entire approach. If it does, then I cannot offer an explanation as to why the cops would wait until the last moment to yell "drop it" instead of doing so during the approach.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Point being, it's strange for someone to have confusion with cops pointing guns and barking commands. I've explained my speculation regarding this, specifically that the man was not of full capacity (naturally or otherwise) and perhaps he thought he was being arrested for shoplifting instead of understanding the cops were in fear of life.
    It is quite possible that the person is/was impaired in some way.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I was under the impression that the video did not include audio and did not include the entire approach. If it does, then I cannot offer an explanation as to why the cops would wait until the last moment to yell "drop it" instead of doing so during the approach.
    Nope, video had the entire approach and sound.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Didn't we pass a law a while back where all air rifles that look even remotely "assault like" have orange tips? I'm not sure how you miss that...
    Got mine at Cabela's and it doesnt have an orange tip.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    They wouldn't have. I was talking about wishing the caller could get some kind of false police report charge since he was falsely reporting details that were proven wrong by the surveillance camera.

    How do you know he didnt report exactly what he saw? Everything or at least most of what he said was borne out by the tape...the man's activity, pointing at specific people, etc.

    Incorrectly identifying the type of (real) fun didnt mean he falsified anything.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you think in this case it was? To me it looked like he blatantly misrepresented the facts when he said said the guy was reloading and pointing guns at children when the surveillance shows otherwise.
    I saw him do all those things...or at least *I believe* I did.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How do you know he didnt report exactly what he saw? Everything or at least most of what he said was borne out by the tape...the man's activity, pointing at specific people, etc.

    Incorrectly identifying the type of (real) fun didnt mean he falsified anything.
    The only thing that the caller got correct was that he guy was swinging the gun. The video does not show that he even once pointed that gun at anyone or that he was loading it. It should be noted that you load a pellet gun far differently than you do a real gun....at least last I knew. I do admit its been awhile since I loaded one and they may have changed it.
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    Re: No indictment in police shooting death of Ohio man carrying air rifle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why? It's a toy and he wasn't acting like it was real.
    Pointing it at people is 'acting like it was real' IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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