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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I think you are being too literal, parents have children.
    Yes...they do...and those chidren grow up to be adults.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's nice, but it wouldn't actually change anything Stewart did.

    The right decision was probably made about charging Stewart, but Ward being high or not had nothing to do with Stewart's actions.
    It likely did have something to do with Ward's actions. Nobody should have pot in their system when driving a race car.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's nice, but it wouldn't actually change anything Stewart did.

    The right decision was probably made about charging Stewart, but Ward being high or not had nothing to do with Stewart's actions.
    I don't believe he implied any of that, Rocket.

    The more interesting point is this may explain Ward's actions. Not sure if it does, but it certainly plays into the discussion.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    As I said, there is no test which can measure that. Look it up.
    No but they drug test randomly in racing. It is a banned substance and any amount can cause him to be banned for life. Also, they can go after you for "reasonable suspicion."

    "NASCAR, Aukerman and Aegis have the ability to test whomever they want based on a list of reasons spelled out in the rulebook. That list includes everything from prior arrest record to aroma to "behaviors generally understood to accompany the use of prohibited substances" -- i.e. slurred speech, mental confusion, mood swings, etc."


    NASCAR's substance abuse policy at a glance - ESPN

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    One good thing came out of this tragedy. Nascar has implemented a new rule. No driver is permitted to exit his car after a crash until the emergency response crews arrive...unless the car is on fire. And no driver exiting his car after a crash is allowed to walk back into traffic.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Right, because all DAs are moral pillars of the community. I am merely asking for the science behind the statement. Like I said, I was under the impression no such test existed. It's been discussed all over the media. Is that really an unreasonable request? It certainly isn't "splitting hairs". Let alone hares.
    In many states an officer can ask for a blood or urine test if there is reasonable suspicion. They also have saliva/hair tests on scene, but they aren't as reliable. They measure mg/l in the blood or urine, the more concentrated the more marijuana ingested or more recently.

    Cannabis drug testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'd be interested to know if such a release holds harmless other participants who signed a release. I would think the release is to hold harmless the track. I don't know how races operate. That said, I do believe that someone is going to get sued.
    I don't see how.

    1. he put himself into danger by getting out of his car.
    2. He was impaired and not thinking properly of his actions. (no sane person gets out of his car and walks into the middle of a race track).

    i don't see how stewart or anyone else is responsible for his death. sure the family could try to sue but the case would be dismissed based on lack of merit.
    his death was a result of his own actions and no one else's.

    this is why i don't believe in drug use.

    as a guy that use to be a drug dealer told our group one day.
    drugs only get you in 3 situations.

    1. shot at
    2. in prison
    3. dead.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Okay. Tell that to the judge if you're charged and fail the test.
    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I would. And I would be correct. Why are you arguing such a silly point? Wouldn't you want an honest, fair, accurate test? Or are you one of these control freaks that thinks weed smokers should be locked up?
    Legal standards and real world actualities do not necessarily match up. You two will never agree because you two aren't even arguing the same concept.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'd be interested to know if such a release holds harmless other participants who signed a release. I would think the release is to hold harmless the track. I don't know how races operate. That said, I do believe that someone is going to get sued.
    I am positive someone will get sued. Its the American way.

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    Re: Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I don't see how.

    1. he put himself into danger by getting out of his car.
    2. He was impaired and not thinking properly of his actions. (no sane person gets out of his car and walks into the middle of a race track).

    i don't see how stewart or anyone else is responsible for his death. sure the family could try to sue but the case would be dismissed based on lack of merit.
    his death was a result of his own actions and no one else's.

    this is why i don't believe in drug use.

    as a guy that use to be a drug dealer told our group one day.
    drugs only get you in 3 situations.

    1. shot at
    2. in prison
    3. dead.
    He put himself in danger by just being at a track. People are killed every year spectating, crewing and driving. Its part of the game.

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