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    Re: Algerian extremists behead French hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Sadly, ISIS is becoming a functioning government in the areas they control. In addition to just beheading and Jihad chanting, ISIS is exporting oil, collecting taxes, establishing a "justice" system, and creating and enforcing a slew of commerical regulations. As they have control over the Mosul Airport, they can also directly accept recruits (providing anybody still flies into Mosul)
    I agree, but the key word in the above is "becoming". The Taliban had a "functioning" government for a number of years before 9/11. And yet ISIS has already managed the following:

    Some Americans who joined ISIS have returned to U.S., officials say - NY Daily News

    Note that they estimate about 100, and without a functioning government of note backing them.

    All this aside, the quasi State status that ISIS enjoys allows them to recruit, screen and train fighters by the thousands- not in groups of say 3-30. This gives them a far larger "talent" pool and a far greater ability to identify dedicated, intelligent recruits and then match them to demanding missions (9-11).
    I don't disagree on that potential for them, and I hope an air campaign will be sufficient to prevent that potential from being realized. It will be necessary to retake the Iraqi territory and hold it with ground troops however. Exactly where those troops will come from remains to be seen. I am honestly pleased the president stepped up and recognized the threat, however reluctantly. On the other hand, I will not endorse something that looks a lot like endless, low level war and all the restrictions that come with it.

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    Re: Algerian extremists behead French hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Sadly, ISIS is becoming a functioning government in the areas they control. In addition to just beheading and Jihad chanting, ISIS is exporting oil, collecting taxes, establishing a "justice" system, and creating and enforcing a slew of commerical regulations. As they have control over the Mosul Airport, they can also directly accept recruits (providing anybody still flies into Mosul)

    All this aside, the quasi State status that ISIS enjoys allows them to recruit, screen and train fighters by the thousands- not in groups of say 3-30. This gives them a far larger "talent" pool and a far greater ability to identify dedicated, intelligent recruits and then match them to demanding missions (9-11).



    I disagree-

    For seeds to turn into weeds, sometines they needs to be planted in large quantities (critical mass) in "good" soil. As the plants grow, they shelter each other from the sun and the wind. Due to their numbers, they can be hard to uproot.

    Meanwhile, small groups of seeds cannot support each other and may never reach critical mass to ensure a thriving colony. As they are small in number and the soil is of varying quality, the weeds can be dug up more easily.

    In short, the concequences of allowing a semi official Jihad state to openly recruit, train and sreen for "talent" people by the thousands is far worse potentially than isolated bands of jihaders trying to recruiting and screening for "talented" people by the dozen.

    Heya Cryptic. And that doesn't count them sending out 30-40 Suicide Bombers a week.

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    Re: Algerian extremists behead French hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    -- A group calling itself Jund al-Khilafah, or Soldiers of the Caliphate, had said they would kill French mountaineer Herve Gourdel after abducting him Sunday unless France ended its airstrikes against Islamic State fighters in Iraq within 24 hours.
    Very sad news, Herve Gourdel was an innocent who loved mountaineering and the art of photography and was following his passion. My condolences to his family.

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