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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I brought it up my first quote which you responded to...

    I am simply stating my opinion on the Bush Admin and it's conservative supporters, and you seem to be taking my comments personally for reasons beyond my understanding.
    The Bush administration isn't the topic of this thread.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    I am amazed that you can't take 13 seconds (that's how long it took me) to find the information.

    Here's what's behind the JeffCo history curriculum protests | CPR

    QUIZ: A peek at the new history coursework that sparked JeffCo proposal | CPR

    Both articles contain references to be reviewed. In addition, there is a report to the school board (I reviewed it in hard print at the briefing) you can research.

    A 45 second review of the facts will convince you that the history curriculum kerfuffle is a strawman, intended to bring public pressure on the school board in order to weaken their position in the ongoing labor discussions with the teachers' union. The kids are being used ...

    I'm amazed that I had to spend 13 seconds of my life because you were too lazy, or intellectually dishonest, to do a google search.

    A simple thank you will do.
    Half of my ancestors were Irish immigrants who were refused work because they were Irish. I wonder if that's being taught about in the curriculum?

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    More conservative rewriting of history in the same vein:

    Four years ago, the [Republican dominated] Texas State Board of Education (SBOE) adopted new standards, known as TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills), for social studies textbooks in the state’s schools. The process ignited an international media storm. When it was done, even the explicitly conservative Thomas B. Fordham Institute gave TEKS a D, on the grounds that it amounted to political and cultural indoctrination, [...]

    In Texas Textbooks, Moses Is a Founding Father - The Daily Beast
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    Finally ... a sane voice in the wilderness.

    Feel lonely much?
    Never. The voices in my head always keep me company.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Then we will have to conclude that the report you were urging others to read does not exist.

    Debate tip: In your situation (imminent fail) I would have ignored my post... you don't have to reply to every one
    Yeah, I do ... it's fun watching you flounder. You clearly demonstrate that you're not interested in discussion (and maybe, accidentally, learning something), but delight in congratulating yourself for a self-delusional (and self-defined) 'win'.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Never. The voices in my head always keep me company.

    You're lucky ... my voices voted for Obama. Now, they're trying to convince to vote for Biden.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Half of my ancestors were Irish immigrants who were refused work because they were Irish. I wonder if that's being taught about in the curriculum?
    That's a fair question ... and I'll bet the answer is no .... to do that would demonstrate the value of assimilation, and the liberals' heads would explode.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    You're lucky ... my voices voted for Obama. Now, they're trying to convince to vote for Biden.
    Come on. Theres crazy...and then theres...well...you know...

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    lol... your challenge is non sequitur. People have right to protest and disobey whatever form of government they choose to protest and disobey. Neither you nor I get to play the thought police in terms of deciding what, where, and when people get to disobey and protest.

    As for your philosophical definition of rights and protest, it is meaningless to this discussion. Without government there is no recognition of rights. I don't accept Natural Rights Philosophy as a logical explanation of the world or a sociological explanation of recorded and substantive human behavior. We know a lot more about ancient humans and human life prior to modern concepts of government and economic fairness than we did in the time of Enlightenment Thinkers.
    the Constitution only has natural rights and privileges.............there is nothing else.

    i did not say at all you don't have a right to protest.....i stated ....nothing is a protest if it involves the destruction of property........how can the right to protest be a right by your action if you destroy property...... therefore it is civl unrest....not a protest...protest does not involve property destruction... the violation of rights.

    if you disobey the law, then you must bare the consequences of that action, plain and simple.

    well you may not believe natural rights, but they are there, government has never created a right, only positive law to secure them, those natural rights you don't believe in...if you think that's not true,..... produce a statue granting a right.

    if you read the Romans, they also believed in unwritten law.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]



    You're getting defensive for no reason. We are just discussing opinions, not making accusations about each other.

    Many of your questions are non sequitur.

    I never said patriotism is crap, I said it cannot be taught. People express it in different ways. I don't assume studying the constitution has been shelved, but studying the constitution is enough. I took issue with teaching kids to "obey authority," and it doesn't matter if the opinion of these high school kids is right or wrong. I don't make black and white judgements about most opinions and protests unless the issue is extreme like neo nazism, and these kids aren't nazis. They have a right to protest, and that's all I care about. I don't care what their opinion is and if I agree or disagree. I don't care what they are protesting. I simply support their freedom to protest.



    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    When did I say we shouldn't protest in the US? Hint - I never did.

    And who said people didn't have the right to free speech in this country? Hint #2 - not me.
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    "patriotism crap" - your words, not mine. You said that you think teaching patriotism is crap.

    I asked you before and I'll ask again. How do you know that they don't teach about the Constitution? How do you know that the revised curriculum didn't include teaching about the Constitution? Where is your proof that the teaching about the Constitution was shelved?

    If you don't know if these kids know what they're protesting or not, then how could you possibly have any opinion on whether they are doing something good or not?

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