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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

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    You're saying that you kept admonishing sangha to read a report that doesn't exist or had yet to be posted? Really?
    That's right

    There is no report concerning what is being taught at the school. One school board member has admitted she doesn't even know what's being taught

    Jeffco parents fear censorship as board considers new curriculum panel, AP history | Chalkbeat

    Wheat Ridge High School history teacher Stephanie Rossi said that despite the revised curriculum guide, her classes’ content remains the same.

    “It’s America’s story,” she said. “But the new approach engages students in a more thoughtful way that does not make the test the only focus of the curriculum.”

    Rossi would not directly comment on the proposed committee, but she did say she was disappointed by the approach.

    “I’m saddened to think that anyone doesn’t believe Jeffco U.S. history teachers aren’t already engaging students in healthy discussions,” she said. “Do they not think we’re not talking about patriotism? They don’t even know us. They don’t know what we’re doing.”

    Williams admitted she doesn’t know. And that’s the point of the committee.

    “All I can say is that this has been brought to me by so many of my stakeholders,” she said. “There are certainly enough questions about this. All I’m asking is for a committee to review it. What does it hurt to look at it?”
    So while GBFAN is passing off the lie that this HS's curriculum has been censored and manipulated to have a liberal bias, the school board member is claiming that she doesn't know and the committee is meant to merely investigate what is being taught which is just as much a lie as GBFAN's non-existent report. The committee has been given the power to censor the curriculum
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Conservative opponents say [...] there is too much content about women, slavery, and Native Americans.

    - See more at: Here's what's behind the JeffCo history curriculum protests | CPR
    True to form, the Cons embrace all minorities

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    Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

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    True to form, the Cons embrace all minorities
    What's rather fascinating is the claim about native Americans having too much representation, when few students at any level of education (K-12, college, undergraduate, or graduate) have much exposure at all to their political histories, let alone economic or social histories.

    Native American history in the classroom exists for the sole purpose of displaying interactions and conflicts with European and white Americans.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    True to form, the Cons embrace all minorities
    Since those three groups comprise the majority of americans, they are also rejecting the majority of history
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    The resolutionís sponsor Williams [...] has said the district should be molding good citizens, not "rebels."

    - See more at: Here's what's behind the JeffCo history curriculum protests | CPR
    I imagine King George III would have agreed with her back in the latter half of the 18th century

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You're saying that you kept admonishing sangha to read a report that doesn't exist or had yet to be posted? Really?
    Nope -- didn't say that at all ... the report was referenced in previous posts, but apparently, he was too lazy to read it at the time. I can think of no reason that I should go to extraordinary effort due to his lack of diligence.

    I merely offered him another example (that he could have gotten in 13 seconds) that further details the issue.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What's rather fascinating is the claim about native Americans having too much representation, when few students at any level of education (K-12, college, undergraduate, or graduate) have much exposure at all to their political histories, let alone economic or social histories.

    Native American history in the classroom exists for the sole purpose of displaying interactions and conflicts with European and white Americans.
    Equally fascinating is the right wing insistence that EVERY SINGLE HISTORY class include Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. How many times does a student need to be taught the same exact thing, over and over? Shouldn't a student taking college level history classes already know that by now?
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Equally fascinating is the right wing insistence that EVERY SINGLE HISTORY class include Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. How many times does a student need to be taught the same exact thing, over and over? Shouldn't a student taking college level history classes already know that by now?
    I subscribe to the belief that you have to go over it again, but in greater detail and complexity with each phase in a student's education. You could chop it up into sections, as most schools do, but revisits are necessary.

    History isn't like mathematics.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I subscribe to the belief that you have to go over it again, but in greater detail and complexity with each phase in a student's education. You could chop it up into sections, as most schools do, but revisits are necessary.

    History isn't like mathematics.
    I don't see how going over Washington's career would aid in teaching the history of our involvement in WWII.

    Sure, there are times when going over some aspect of those three's career would be helpful in discussing some other part of our history, say slavery. However, that's not the right wings complaint.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What's rather fascinating is the claim about native Americans having too much representation, when few students at any level of education (K-12, college, undergraduate, or graduate) have much exposure at all to their political histories, let alone economic or social histories.

    Native American history in the classroom exists for the sole purpose of displaying interactions and conflicts with European and white Americans.
    You're exactly correct ---- the current curriculum only uses Native American history as a foil to prove the follies of capitalism, free market economics, and the latent aggressiveness of European Americans.

    I can remember a time when we actually studied Native American history ... I can still draw the map of the Indian tribes in the Midwest. I'm guessing that's not so true of today's student. It was a high school history class that got me hooked on studying the Anasazi tribe and its disappearance in 1320 (which was, and still is, a very gripping mystery). I'm guessing today's student has never even heard of the Anasazi tribe. We had to study the Iroquois Confederacy, and its impact on the US Constitution. Again, I'm pretty much convinced you can't find a student today that's aware of it. (By the way, it's an interesting side note that the Iroquois Confederacy was developed by a woman).

    THAT is the difference in teaching history ... and using history as a political indoctrination tool.
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