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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ahh, ok, so you're going the dumb semantics game route. K. Dumb semantics games are dumb.
    No, I am going the "words have meaning" route to combat your "words have no meaning" position.

    Also, Pro Tip: If you are arguing that the two sentences have the same meaning then you are making a semantic argument.

    I've updated my post since you quoted me to spell out the logic of the difference in the two sentences.

    Again, like Sangha, I would advise you not to take your intellectual cues from 17 year olds.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's it? That's all you have in response to j's post? Ba! Worthless.
    His post was worthless. I had already stated that the only contention would be a semantics contention, and that's all he brought. The fact is, protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism. While it may not be a universal statement as some protests may not be patriotic in the least, it is one of the most patriotic acts there is and one the the very foundations of the Republic.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    His post was worthless. I had already stated that the only contention would be a semantics contention, and that's all he brought. The fact is, protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism. While it may not be a universal statement as some protests may not be patriotic in the least, it is one of the most patriotic acts there is and one the the very foundations of the Republic.
    No, you have that slightly wrong...I would say allowing the protest is a high form of patriotism, face it some protests are anti patriotic.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And that isn't what you said! Criminey.

    Quote #1: "There is nothing more patriotic than protest."
    Quote #2: "Protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism in this Republic."


    So, I would state that laying down your life for your country is the greatest form of patriotism.

    If that is true (which it is) then Quote #1 is false and Quote #2 is still true. Therefore:

    Quote #1 =/= Quote #2
    Well let's play this stupidity out to it's conclusion.

    Laying down your life for your country is not the greatest form of patriotism as the country is led by the government and not all death for the government is an act of patriotism. In fact, it can go against the rights and liberties of the individual; which would make it traitorous.

    Laying down your life for your country is one of the highest forms of patriotism, but is not universally true and depending on what semantics you're going to play with "for your country", it could in fact be not true on whole. For instance, all the soldiers dying in the ME for the sake of the government and its infinity war, those are not acts of patriotism as they do nothing for the Republic or the People.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    His post was worthless. I had already stated that the only contention would be a semantics contention, and that's all he brought. The fact is, protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism. While it may not be a universal statement as some protests may not be patriotic in the least, it is one of the most patriotic acts there is and one the the very foundations of the Republic.
    It is funny to see you try to argue that the rebuttal to your semantic argument is worthless because it is semantic. There are very real and logical inconsistencies in the two sentences. I have shown you how it is possible to make a statement that renders one of the quotes true while the other quote is rendered false. This definitively shows that the sentences are not saying the same thing.

    It's obvious you are not very interested in the meanings of words so I would suggest you stop trying to argue the meanings of sentences.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you have that slightly wrong...I would say allowing the protest is a high form of patriotism, face it some protests are anti patriotic.
    Well I did say that some protests may not be patriotic in the least.

    Allowing them is no form of patriotism, typically you can't "not allow" them without engaging in treason and tyranny. The standing up, the voice opinion, the dissent against government action...those are acts of patriotism in certain realizations of the act. Following the law...not so much.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

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    And where is the censorship in that statement?
    I am not here to help you understand clearly written statements.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ahh, ok, so you're going the dumb semantics game route. K. Dumb semantics games are dumb.
    He's doing the same thing with the school boards policy about censoring the curriculum
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism in this Republic.
    Not if it's based on stupidity, and interfering with the rights of others. I'd see more evidence of patriotism from someone wearing a military uniform than anything I saw from the OWS protesters. There are many far higher forms of patriotism, but perhaps that's what they're teaching grade students these days.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well let's play this stupidity out to it's conclusion.

    Laying down your life for your country is not the greatest form of patriotism as the country is led by the government and not all death for the government is an act of patriotism. In fact, it can go against the rights and liberties of the individual; which would make it traitorous.

    Laying down your life for your country is one of the highest forms of patriotism, but is not universally true and depending on what semantics you're going to play with "for your country", it could in fact be not true on whole. For instance, all the soldiers dying in the ME for the sake of the government and its infinity war, those are not acts of patriotism as they do nothing for the Republic or the People.
    Treason =/= Patriotism it is the opposite of Patriotism, therefor a traitors death is not an act of patriotism.

    You really are terrible with words.
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