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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Whether is was a good thing or was not should not matter in the educational teaching of the events. You tell the facts of the dates and the events that happened and then the teacher ( a good one) should then have a discussion without giving their own opinion but instead having the students come up with their own view on whether it was a good thing or not, provoking intelligent discussions and debate in the classroom. That's just my opinion on how it should be teached and it could be a good thing or not.
    At the end of the day they want to do to history what fox does to the news.

    Apply a chosen perspective.

    Left perspective: nuclear fire rained down on civilian targets.

    Right perspective: nukes sent a message strong enough to get Japan to surrender, saving more lives that the nukes cost.

    Good arguments can be made for both, but one shouldn't be systematically promoted to the exclusion of the other.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    At the end of the day they want to do to history what fox does to the news.

    Apply a chosen perspective.

    Left perspective: nuclear fire rained down on civilian targets.

    Right perspective: nukes sent a message strong enough to get Japan to surrender, saving more lives that the nukes cost.

    Good arguments can be made for both, but one shouldn't be systematically promoted to the exclusion of the other.
    Right now it is though....Just ask a High School student about world history, and you will see how.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Typical liberal response: no evidence to back their claims.

    Hardly a "Pro-USA" textbook. The authors' point of view crystallizes into anything but an American viewpoint. The authors write, "In 1900 a superpatriotic group known as the 'Boxers' broke loose with the cry, 'Kill Foreign Devils'." Not once do the authors call the Boxer Rebellion a 'discriminatory insensitive action on the part of the Chinese'. Instead, the authors note "patriotic Chinese" formed to kick out foreigners [Boxer Rebellion]. Previously in the text is the Chinese immigration into the United States around the 1880s. Chinese immigration in the United States culminated with passing the Chinese Exclusion Act (barring Chinese immigration). The text describes this act as a "discriminatory measure" and that Americans were acting out of "ethnic prejudice." Although it may be seem discriminatory, it was also realistic. Americans in the Golden State complained about competing Chinese immigrants for jobs and wages (as the Chinese would work for cheap). There is an obvious slant and bias here.
    Republicans & Conservatives: Proof of Liberal History Textbooks
    Fair enough.

    But the solution is to remove the liberal bias not replace it with conservative bias.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum changes that would promote patriotism | Fox News





    I'm with the students on this one. Complete bs on the part of that school board. No curriculum should be biased or censored, just straight facts.
    Yeah right - curriculum these days has been manifested by progressives and said curriculum is absolutely anti-US and completely sympathetic to progressive values and progressive politics.

    This little "temper tantrum" proves this..

    Progressives hate patriotism and they HATE the founding documents.

    As far as I see it public schools presently are teaching kids how to be good little communist sheep.

    There needs to be some balance here...

    Furthermore how the hell can a kid storm out of class (or even a teacher for that matter) if they're ignorant to the ideas mentioned in the article?

    Also, part of learning is understanding different points of view - which is something the little commies DONT want because it would screw up their game plan by giving kids an alternative perspective.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Fair enough.

    But the solution is to remove the liberal bias not replace it with conservative bias.
    Yes, there is bias on all sides.

    Just look at how story is covered by the "talking heads" on FOXNEWS with one slant, and then on CNN with another. This is called agenda.

    Our history books should be written as if an alien race were writing it thousands of years from now---more or less with basic facts.

    But just as life isn't fair, so is real history. No one could possibly think the achievements, bearing and importance of somelike like President Washington could be compared to someone like President Obama. Obama's life and contribution to America pales to insifnificance compared to Washington. Wait until 20 years from now, and Obama's Liberal fanatics will give them both about the same amount of print.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Fair enough.

    But the solution is to remove the liberal bias not replace it with conservative bias.
    What conservative bias is being proposed to replace anything with?
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMFG do you know what started the Boston Massacre? It was NOT a demonstration! It started with a single colonist calling out a British officer for not paying a bill at the wigmaker's. The guard at the custom house heard the exchange and went over and bopped the colonist on the head with a musket. Then a large freaking brawl ensued. It wasn't a demonstration. It was a fight.

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    It was March 5, 1770, a snowy night, when a couple of young boys began throwing snowballs at soldiers. As the crowd grew larger people continued to throw ice and taunt them. Soon, approximately sixty men and dock workers complained about soldiers taking their jobs and impressments--taking men’s property or forcing them to fight in the service--in front of a customhouse.
    OMFingGoding isn't going to help you. It was much more than a fight.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yeah, these school board members campaigned on these changes, and the people in the community supported those changes

    That's why they're protesting the changes....because they support them.
    Nice try, but you were correct on the first point as applies to the large majority. The last little bit of sarcasm applies only to the losers who are now butthurt about it.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    I think this ugly attitude toward young people explains why nobody under 65 votes for Republicans anymore, unless they live in a compound in the desert, or a trailer park in the South.
    Hilarious, you do know these students are not voters, right? When you reach adulthood you may realize that adults decide quite a number of things that children object to. It's telling that when those same children become adults they do the same thing. Why? Because they have adult responsibilities and all of a sudden those things make sense.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    soooooo... the teachers union gets teachers and students to protest over bias and censorship of a curriculum that is already heavily biased and censored...

    makes perfect sense.

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