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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Your post that I responded to focused on the WW2 era. My reply was in that context.


    You tell us... it is your argument.


    Yeah, I was asking for clarification of that claim. That means you have to do some homework.... not throw up a collection of links and expect others to do it for you. Fail.

    Summary of your reply: empty rhetoric.
    So based on all that happened prior to June 1941, how was Stalin a better person, a better leader for his country and the world around him he attempted to control---than Hitler???
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not if they werent aware of this predilection/slant/perspective. School board members dont exactly run on 'platforms' and sadly, I bet most parents dont pay much attention anyway.

    Now maybe they will. I think that the attention here is a good thing.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    People who have contempt for Nationalism have never really learned History's lessons on why Nationalism is a very good thing to have in your life.
    I never said anything about "contempt" for nationalism. I said history should not be taught with a specifically nationalist bias. Please keep up.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most kids are taught history.

    Unless they go to a religious school. Then they learn myths
    You ought to talk to the kids ... see how much history they know. You're in for a rude awakening.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    So... they weren't patriotic toward their king then. Rather than simply demonstrate by walking out, they chose illegal acts, including the burning of homes, the dumping of the king's tea adn outright shooting British soldiers. They chose to take up arms against their government.

    So, tell me how these high school students were wrong again.
    well your reading is something to be desired...the subject is the foundation of america............you need to get you dates straight....the tea party was in 1773....the first continental congress met in 1774

    i stated clearly, that the founders tried to work with the king, they sent him petitions of their grievances as however he ignored them, and they continued to try to work with the king, when he THREATEN THEM they turned to revolution.

    revolution forged this nation, laying its foundation....not protest.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

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    So based on all that happened prior to June 1941, how was Stalin a better person, a better leader for his country and the world around him he attempted to control---than Hitler???
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strike or disregard of the law."



    citizenship:


    George Washington Farewell Address
    Categories: Citizenship
    Date: September 19, 1796
    Citizens by birth or choice of a common country, that country has a right to concentrate your affections. The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.

    George Washington address to the New York Legislature
    Categories: Citizenship
    Date: June 26, 1775
    When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen; and we shall most sincerely rejoice with you in the happy hour when the establishment of American Liberty, upon the most firm and solid foundations shall enable us to return to our Private Stations in the bosom of a free, peacefully and happy Country.

    Samuel Adams in the Boston Gazette
    Categories: Citizenship
    Date: April 16, 1781
    Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.


    Benjamin Rush Plan of a Federal University
    Categories: Citizenship, Education
    Date: 1788
    While the business of education in Europe consists in lectures upon the ruins of Palmyra and the antiquities of Herculaneum, or in disputes about Hebrew points, Greek particles, or the accent and quantity of the Roman language, the youth of America will be employed in acquiring those branches of knowledge which increase the conveniences of life, lessen human misery, improve our country, promote population, exalt the human understanding, and establish domestic social and political happiness.

    George Washington letter to the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island
    Categories: Citizenship
    Date: September 9, 1790
    The citizens of the United States of America have the right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.


    George Washington Letter to the Governors
    Categories: Citizenship
    Date: June 18, 1783
    At this auspicious period, the United States came into existence as a Nation; and if their Citizens should not be completely free and happy, the fault will be entirely their own.

    George Washington Letter to the Governors
    Categories: Citizenship, The People, Virtue
    Date: June 18, 1783
    It is . . . [the citizens] choice, and depends upon their conduct, whether they will be respectable and prosperous, or contemptable and miserable as a Nation. This is the time of their political probation; this is the moment when the eyes of the World are turned upon them.


    Alexander Hamilton From the New York Evening Post: an Examination of the President's Message, Continued, No. VIII"
    Categories: Citizenship, Liberty / Freedom, Republican Government
    Date: January 12, 1802
    The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education, and family. The opinion advanced in the Notes on Virginia is undoubtedly correct, that foreigners will generally be apt to bring with them attachments to the persons they have left behind; to the country of their nativity; and to its particular customs and manners. They will also entertain opinions on government congenial with those under which they have lived; or if they should be led hither from a preference to ours, how extremely unlikely is it that they will bring with them that temperate love of liberty, so essential to real republicanism?

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strike or disregard of the law."



    patriotism,



    Thomas Jefferson letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: February 21, 1825
    Love your neighbor as yourself and your country more than yourself.

    John Adams letter to Benjamin Rush
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: April 18, 1808
    Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.

    George Washington letter to the Legislature of Pennsylvania
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: September 5, 1789
    It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet unborn.

    Joseph Warren Boston Massacre Oration
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: March 6, 1775
    Our country is in danger, but not to be despaired of. Our enemies are numerous and powerful; but we have many friends, determining to be free, and heaven and earth will aid the resolution. On you depend the fortunes of America. You are to decide the important question, on which rest the happiness and liberty of millions yet unborn. Act worthy of yourselves.

    Benjamin Rush letter to His Fellow Contrymen: On Patriotism
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: October 20, 1773
    Patriotism is as much a virtue as justice, and is as necessary for the support of societies as natural affection is for the support of families.

    James Madison letter to James Monroe
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: December 16, 1824
    The eyes of the world being thus on our Country, it is put the more on its good behavior, and under the greater obligation also, to do justice to the Tree of Liberty by an exhibition of the fine fruits we gather from it.

    George Washington upon fumbling for his glasses before delivering the Newburgh Address
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: March 15, 1783
    Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for, I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country.

    George Washington Farewell Address
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: September 19, 1796
    The name of American, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations.

    George Washington General Orders
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: July 2, 1776
    Our own Country's Honor, all call upon us for a vigorous and manly exertion, and if we now shamefully fail, we shall become infamous to the whole world. Let us therefore rely upon the goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble Actions - The Eyes of all our Countrymen are now upon us, and we shall have their blessings, and praises, if happily we are the instruments of saving them from the Tyranny mediated against them. Let us therefore animate and encourage each other, and shew the whole world, that a Freeman contending for Liberty on his own ground is superior to any slavish mercenary on earth.

    George Washington Farewell Address
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: September 19, 1796
    Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.

    George Washington General Orders
    Categories: Patriotism
    Date: August 23, 1776
    The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    No need to preach to the choir.

    However don't expect our dear friend Karl to bother looking that up.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Measure your kids' American History knowledge ... or yours.

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