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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Not at all... I don't believe that, nor did I ever imply it.
    You're lying. You said you support the statement which is clearly biased.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    My statement is true.
    You are claiming that the following statement you made was true:

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    I have already posted a quote from the school board member who objects to the teaching of slavery
    Well now I can say the following as absolute fact, without being accused of flaming, trolling or baiting...

    That sir is a lie... A 100% fabricated accusation that has no basis what so ever in fact.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Koch-fueled education--right-wing social engineering as Newt Gingrich called it--the Koch brothers almost pulled this off in Noth Carolina's largest school district a while back--Wayne County -
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's leniency, but still punishment for being absent from classes. Schools were in the right to give out that dose of punishment.
    Still your opinion.

    And still not remotely the point of this thread.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Still your opinion.
    No, this is established school practice, backed by law since the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Not an opinion. Big difference.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    History is mostly a collection of lies created by the victor.

    All history is biased. As Leftwing socialists control most public school and college history textbook publication houses, their Leftist agenda is quite apparent.
    Can you give us some examples of this apparent leftist socialist agenda in schoolbooks?

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    In all the history textbooks I've seen over the years, Communists get a free ride. As their agenda is hardly different than Liberals who write the books. Every single history book I've looked at will have a least one dedicated page in the WW2 section on the Holocaust, and nothing on greater number of atrocities done by the Soviets. Hitler bad, Stalin good. Biased? For sure.
    In the context of WW2, how is Stalin bad? Do you not think he was instrumental in the Allied defeat of Hitler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Liberals have only a narrow view of what "civil rights" are. For typical, brainwashed American liberals, they believe it is still 1963 and Blacks and other ethnic groups still suffer under Jim Crow Voter Laws and the never ending problem of "racism and discrimination." Factors that will take another 2,000 years to erase, it seems.
    Considering the coordinated racist vote ID laws recently be passed by Republican state legislators, clearly Blacks and other ethic groups still suffer under Jim Crow voter laws in many or most red states. I will grant you that this disenfranchisement is a recent event, which illustrates that we should continue to teach the existence of earlier racist behaviour since it can clearly (and has) resurface(d) after being tamped down.

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    Black liberals, on the other hand, still think it is 1864, and as oppressed slaves, they can only have "justice" when they have taken over all forms of government through revolutionary acts. This is what they are demanding in Ferguson, Mo. And what has already happened in Detroit, and so many other cities across the nation.
    Considering that Rand Paul, often mentioned as a 2016 presidential candidate by Republicans, would like to allow 'whites only' restuarants clearly it is still (in the right's mind) 1954 or 1963 at least (IIRC he'd like to see the Civil Rights Act repealed). Considering right wing extemists like Cliven Bundy, supported by right wing media,who thinks that the abolition of slavery was a bad idea it clearly still is 1864.

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    Would you call that "Black Supremacy" or just "Social Justice?"
    I would call it fascism.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, this is established school practice, backed by law since the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Not an opinion. Big difference.
    You keep claiming they're right.

    That's your opinion. They do not 'have to' apply it.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Students are protesting using their first amendment rights--a tenet of the supposed right-wing/Libertarian plank--except of course when the right-wing disagrees with their views -
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And it was said in response to the story posted, seemingly implicating that those in the story were suggesting the curriculum SHOULDN'T be factual. If that wasn't the intent there was little reason to say it as it relates to the topic.
    I find it odd that you can read "between the lines" of that post and divine the poster's intended meaning but can't read between the lines of this school board words and actions.



    Which is exactly my point. People like to ACT like they give a damn about bias, but that's not true...they give a damn about bias that goes against their own biases.
    Yes, I was agreeing that what you said was true, but basically just pedantry. It's pretty clear that is what people mean when they talk about bias.



    Funny, you put it in quotes but I don't remember that being what was proposed here.
    And here's where you lose that ability to read between the lines

    I looked back through every post you've made in this thread and I didn't see it. Care to point me to the specific post because apparently I'm missing it. I see one instance where you make the claim that they said that in a paraphrased sort of way, and a post where you include a link without any information on what said link contains and which the link doesn't function...but that's it. What post did you actually quote the school board member saying that kid shouldn't be taught about slavery in the US, and did it actually include a link to verify your claim?
    And again. The quote has the school board member complaining that the teaching of slavery was put in a "negative light". Until you can explain how slavery can be taught in a positive light, I will hold off answering your question.

    Thanks for the strawman, now show me where I've suggested there isn't? Absolutely I think there's a political reason behind what this group would choose to be included in history classes. Where we differ likely is I believe peoples political views impact pretty much all instances of history texts or curriculum in various ways. What I suggested was questionable was the outright jump to the notion that what was stated in the OP automatically would lead to it being used to keep from "teaching kids about slavery in the US"
    I didn't say you suggested there isn't. However, you have refrained from mentioning it. And when I've referred to it, you suddenly lose the ability to discern intent, even though this is part of a well documented movement to influence education. So until you apply the same standards for "outright jumping to notions" to all parties, I'll refrain from trying to convince you of something you seem to be unwilling to admit.

    However, since you seem to have read the school boards comment about slavery, I would be very interested in hearing about how slavery could be taught in a positive light. And ideas?

    And since you're so keen on pointing out claims that don't meet your standard of proof, do you care to comment about the posts that accuse the left of using education for all sorts of nefarious purposes, or is this another standard that is applied occasionally?
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You keep claiming they're right.

    That's your opinion. They do not 'have to' apply it.
    A student cannot skip class without an excused absence. This isn't rocket science.
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