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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You said, and I quote:




    Based on the links contained in this thread, and the links you have provided, that statement absolutely false.

    Either substanciate that claim, or retract it.

    Here you go:

    "She said she’s not trying to eliminate the facts of U.S. history but shares the concerns conservatives nationally have outlined – that AP History casts some parts of history in a negative light, such as the bombing of Hiroshima and slavery. - See more at: http://www.cpr.org/news/story/jeffco-teachers-students-protest-proposal-promote-patriotism-history-classes#sthash.EFE3DP8D.dpuf"
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    lol must be a rhetorical question! (oops did I call you out?)
    No, it is an honest question. He made statements that indicated knowledge of what has been changed. I want to know what has been changed because without that knowledge it is impossible to judge whether the changes are good or bad.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So bias is fine, as long as it is bias you agree with. That certainly explains a few things...
    I never said that... Why is it you feel that dishonesty is nessisary to win an argument?

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I just reread it. It says they are not being punished. That they are being given, as you said, unauthorized absences.' Big deal...they must mean little since they are not 'punishment.'
    If it is not punishment, how do you consider it a threat in order to quash dissent? It is a punishment, but it is punishing student absence from compulsory education. Schools, can, however, give out far more in the way of punishment than that. In some cases, fines are levied and community service.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    As usual, the uninformed rally to support the ignorant.

    Contrary to what has been said here, there was no attempt to "censor" what the students heard. Rather, the proposal focused on the goals of the American History course. It seems inherently logical that a course in American History would focus on the creation of the nation, its founding principles, and it national beliefs. Included in those beliefs is the right to protest ... the intent wasn't downplay the actions of that past, but rather, to put them in their proper light.

    Has anybody actually bothered to look at the proposed course?

    "... "patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights.” Is that NOT what you want them to learn?

    I find it interesting, though, that the 'protest' only happened after the teachers couldn't get their way with pay raises ... and that 'several hundred' students protested. Given that Aurora High school only has two American History classes (30 students each?), I suspect this was less about educational hubris and more about getting an afternoon out of class.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post

    Anyways, like I said, things can be done in a more intelligent manner than sign waiving. Very few situations have ever called for sign waiving.

    I'll remember to tell that to the blacks of the civil rights era and the suffragettes.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, it is an honest question. He made statements that indicated knowledge of what has been changed. I want to know what has been changed because without that knowledge it is impossible to judge whether the changes are good or bad.
    In that case good luck getting an honest answer...
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'll remember to tell that to the blacks of the civil rights era and the suffragettes.
    Remember to tell them they might be one of the very few situations
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If it is not punishment, how do you consider it a threat in order to quash dissent? It is a punishment, but it is punishing student absence from compulsory education. Schools, can, however, give out far more in the way of punishment than that. In some cases, fines are levied and community service.
    And yet, they are quoted saying 'it's not punishment.'

    Seems more like a slap on the hand after I went back and read it.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Remember to tell them they might be one of the very few situations
    And yet....very powerful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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