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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Blah blah blah. You can die fighting for the State in ways that act against the People, that death is not the highest form of patriotism. You just don't like it, so you make ignorant statements and juvenile accusations to cover it up.

    No skin off my teeth. Grow up, deal with it, move on.
    You were serious?
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Equality is the very thing liberal textbooks don't teach about American history.

    Only, and I do mean only European Christians are held accountable for any moral behavior. That is THE message.

    Slavery, along with allowing few rights for women, and a culture of child abuse were all part of every Native American (Amerindian) tribe throughout the thousands of years before Columbus.
    Yet, it was only the very European Christians that gave the world democracy and began the end of slavery in the West that were "wrong" for having slaves. Such racist bull.
    If it was wrong for Washington and Jefferson to have slaves, then it should have been wrong for every Amerindian chief during the same time period to have them as well.

    "They should have known better."

    Another biased lie is that Europeans were evil by taking over the land of the peaceful noble savages who were just rowing their canoes and smoking peace pipes for 15,000 years before they were unfairly routed.

    From when thier native ancestors from Asia and Europe first set foot on the land eons ago, there has been warfare and genocide.

    In Comancheria the lands of the Southern US plains, the Comanche tribes killed and drove off the Western Apaches by around 1700 AD. The Western Apaches had done the same thing to the former inhabitants, as they had done the same. And on and on. The Comanche were the most warlike and brutal of all Amerindian tribes. Torture and mutilation was expected on anyone outside their ethnic group they came upon. Young children and women were taken as captives and sex toys. The rest, exterminated.
    The Comanches kept the Spanish from occupying their territory, and it wasn't until the 1870's that better armed Anglos finally put their bloody reign of terror to an end.

    Comanches: The History Of A People by T.R. Fehrenbach | 9780307774002 | NOOK Book (eBook) | Barnes & Noble

    Amerindians should always be held to the same moral and behavioral standards as the Europeans. Their objectives were the same as all people throughout history: To gain and defend territory.
    Well, number one; you’re talking about Europeans / English people who settled the east coast in the 17th century. These were the very same English / Europeans who had been exercising genocide in the Gaelic countries for about 500 hundred years by then. These same Europeans / English coerced both slaves and Indians to fight against American settlers in our Revolution for “land and freedom”. English / European land tenure was a paradigm of strength in the culture; even to this day. And yes, Indian tribes fought each other just the Clans of old fought each other, however America’s need for Manifest Destiny nearly wiped out a lot of Indian tribes and marginalized them to almost uninhabitable land the very same way that the English/ Europeans banished the Irish: “Hell or Connaught!”

    I’m afraid that your analysis misses the point completely: human beings fight no matter who they are or what the reason, so to somehow overlook real history only makes the point about why these kids were smart enough to walk in the first place, and your analysis only iterates the conclusion that conservative ideology has no place in American education.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    While there are those who hate the Tea Party, you can't deny that they should be a benchmark for how a civil protest should be conducted.
    In comparison with groups throwing rocks, yes. Otherwise, no.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    You were serious?
    You can't formulate an argument?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    A student demonstrator, Tyrone G. Parks, a senior at Arvada High School, said Tuesday that the nation's foundation was built on civil protests, "and everything that we've done is what allowed us to be at this point today. And if you take that from us, you take away everything that America was built off of."


    Mind full of mush.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What does this have to do with my statement that you quoted?
    That your quote is manufactured liberal hooey that was presented by the left in a historical context as a means to justify the anti-American sentiments expressed at liberal protests throughout the last several decades.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    No, no he didn't... The Jefferson library confirmed that there is no such quote, or anything that even resembles such a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
    Not the exact quote, the similarity of rhetoric found throughout his writing. The guy was a revolutionary, sometimes to a fault.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    That your quote is manufactured liberal hooey that was presented by the left in a historical context as a means to justify the anti-American sentiments expressed at liberal protests throughout the last several decades.
    K, well I wasn't really quoting anyone. Just stating that protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism that can be expressed in a free republic. It's true. So whatever.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    In comparison with groups throwing rocks, yes. Otherwise, no.
    They were civil, peaceful, non-violent and not only did they abide by the law, they actually cleaned up their mess when they were done, instead of leaving piles of garbage in their wake.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Nope. I don't think kids would stage a disruptive walk-out protest against the Marxist principles that are taught in much of school curriculum these days without somebody with whatever motives encouraging them to do that.
    Exactly. These kids were coached or just plain told what to do.

    I don't think that any one side should be left out of historical studies. The left has had a captive audience since the 1960's (the 70's for sure) and now it appears that the right wants to push them out in this particular school district. That, too, is not correct. It should be a full, inclusive and holistic recital of facts, not ideology, as it has been for decades. Patriotism and love of country have not been included in curricula for decades, yet blaming the US for the evil in the world has, and still is.

    But again, these kids didn't walk out on their own. They were coached.
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